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Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. :eek:mg_smile:

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!
 
Adding a socket in my Daughters bedroom, had no end to end continuity on the line conductors.

After some fault finding, I found the cause. Just butted up together and taped!

I joined the line conductor with a Wago and also put a grommet in the back box.
 

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Adding a socket in my Daughters bedroom, had no end to end continuity on the line conductors.

After some fault finding, I found the cause. Just butted up together and taped!

I joined the line conductor with a Wago and also put a grommet in the back box.
I prefer to use the wago 2773 push fit in that scenario as there is no chance of the levers being pushed up when the socket is fitted.

 
. Just butted up together and taped!
I suspect that at some point the insulation had been damaged where the break is and the exposed copper shorted to a sharp edge on the back box or an earth strap on the back of the socket, blowing a sizeable chunk of the copper away. This had been taped up as a repair to the insulation, but the weakened wire has subsequently broken inside the tape.
 
First day back to work in 2024 and it's started already. Thank goodness this is all being demolished.

Junction box as found, lid missing, metal box not earthed, neutrals from multiple lighting circuits mixed up, wiring extended via front of box. flexible conduit poked into female adaptors.
[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

This total mess was behind the plasterboard. Someone actually installed this. Very little in the zones, singles unprotected all over the place. The whole building is wired like this in flexible conduit buried wherever.
[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!


A closer look.
[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I didn't photograph all the live cables with taped up ends, or any of the twist and tape cable joints.
 
First day back to work in 2024 and it's started already. Thank goodness this is all being demolished.

Junction box as found, lid missing, metal box not earthed, neutrals from multiple lighting circuits mixed up, wiring extended via front of box. flexible conduit poked into female adaptors.
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This total mess was behind the plasterboard. Someone actually installed this. Very little in the zones, singles unprotected all over the place. The whole building is wired like this in flexible conduit buried wherever.
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A closer look.
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I didn't photograph all the live cables with taped up ends, or any of the twist and tape cable joints.
There was probably a time when someone thought it was a job well done and beyond the minimum requirements.
 
They use a lot of cable in smooth flexi conduit all over Europe… and the white stuff there is possibly the closest thing we have that is similar.

Therefore, I deduce Doctor Watson, that this installation was put in by none other than…… (dramatic pause) …. A foreigner!


Ok.. that’s not fair, there’s plenty of non Uk sparks that are good and do have an understanding of our bs7671…. This one apparently doesn’t.



What’s that old song? “Rip it up and start again….”
 
Dramatic difference between the black conduit you can buy in TLC (20mm Flexible Conduit Pack c/w 10 Glands - Black | Flexicon (FPP-CP20B) - https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AF20BSB.html) you get glands, but in Europe you get a draw wire already installed, but no glands, back box's are unsuitable. (https://www.leroymerlin.fr/produits...a/gaine-icta-diam-20-mm-l-100-m-62900572.html)

That sort of flexible conduit is one step up from being of no use whatsoever. Awful stuff, although I invariably install quite a bit of it in stud walls to provide a route from A to B - generally short runs to an exit blade or for the likes of low voltage door controls.
 
That sort of flexible conduit is one step up from being of no use whatsoever. Awful stuff, although I invariably install quite a bit of it in stud walls to provide a route from A to B - generally short runs to an exit blade or for the likes of low voltage door controls.
Ok for wiring and keeping cables together under worktops/benches in rooms like kitchens or workrooms, where access is awkward. Or saddled inside cupboards, even.
 

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