Don't you just love the SNP......

[YoungScud]

So a bunch of very very small minority parties driven by the thought that they would get some recognition if the independence vote won the day

The SNP have only become what they are peddling a dream that appeals to a number of Scottish people the sooner they deliver the better



Not a chance of that ever happening



So you will continue to brow beat people. May be the manifesto should be "We will continue to vote on independence until the electorate gets it right"

Not entirely sure how you define my posts as browbeating, but it takes all sorts, I suppose. As far as the parties supporting independence are concrened, I simply answered a question as asked.

 

[Spoon]

Not really into politics as they are all a bunch of liars, but can someone just explain to me what all the hassle is about. It just sounds like a young couple arguing cause one of them wants to break up and the other is saying that they will never meet anyone as good as them again......
If Scotland wants to be independent then what's the problem? I have never understood the dislike between England and Scotland. It's mainly about football, when you hear the Scottish wanting anyone but the English to win and the English wanting anyone but the Scottish to win. Both groups need a good smack....

 

[malcolmsanford]

I note that you live in Kent Malcolm.Says the man from Wigan.

Can we agree that all these words are rather pointless ?

Do I detect a little anti English feeling here Sean old son

 

[UNG]

Not entirely sure how you define my posts as browbeating, but it takes all sorts, I suppose. As far as the parties supporting independence are concrened, I simply answered a question as asked.

Originally Posted by YoungScud
Moving on, though, does not mean the dream died. Mine never will. If id doesn't happen during my lifetime, my sons won't stop working towards independence, and they have every right so to do, and none of you have any right to say otherwise, at least not if you want to go on keeping up the pretence of democracy.

How many referendums do you think it will take to get what you want and at what cost

 

[malcolmsanford]

Scud welcome back son missed you.

Wow we have now brought Sectarianism into it...............whew we have moved on here

I take your the Green side of the force son

 

[sean_ork]

Do I detect a little anti English feeling here Sean old son

Nope, none whatsoever - I'm married to one.

 

[sean_ork]

Scud welcome back son missed you.

Wow we have now brought Sectarianism into it...............whew we have moved on here

I take your the Green side of the force son

That's a rich coming from someone who introduced Andy Murray and Longshanks into the thread, and both in the same post !

 

[UNG]

Not really into politics as they are all a bunch of liars, but can someone just explain to me what all the hassle is about. It just sounds like a young couple arguing cause one of them wants to break up and the other is saying that they will never meet anyone as good as them again......
If Scotland wants to be independent then what's the problem? I have never understood the dislike between England and Scotland. It's mainly about football, when you hear the Scottish wanting anyone but the English to win and the English wanting anyone but the Scottish to win. Both groups need a good smack....

The dislike is between Scotland and England and it is not just football that causes the animosity from the north

 

[Spoon]

The dislike is between Scotland and England and it is not just football that causes the animosity from the north

The animosity is both ways mate, not just from the north.

 

[YoungScud]

Scud welcome back son missed you.

Wow we have now brought Sectarianism into it...............whew we have moved on here

I take your the Green side of the force son

Thanks for the welcome Malcolm. I'm not sure at which stage I introduced sectarianism. I'm going to take a stab and guess you're referring to the Rangers gear. Nothing to do with sectarianism, at least not for me. No, it was more about what I personally witnessed in George Square and Buchanan St. I don't know how much you know about the small handful of Rangers supporters who are still sectarian, but they're dwindling,which is to be expected of those not at the top of the intellectual tree. Nevertheless, the sky blue was well represented that night. Given your average thug's knowledge of history, a loose grasp of who King Billy was and what his role in British history was, it's not shocking.

Edit: Oh, and yes, I'm probably on the green side, or rather the Greens side. I actually do have a fondness for the Scottish Greens. Before you say anything, yes I did get the reference, but it's frankly a silly assumption. Not being a Rangers fan, apparently surprisingly, doesn't make you a Celtic supporter. If I had to pick a team, it'd be Beith Juniors until the day I die, but I'm really a rugby fan. Don't have much time for football.

 

[sean_ork]

The animosity is both ways mate, not just from the north.

And its the same with the Welsh, the Irish, and the bloke that keeps parking in your parking space, your neighbours whose trees hang over your fence, the world is full of petty animosity.

 

[Spoon]

And its the same with the Welsh, the Irish, and the bloke that keeps parking in your parking space, your neighbours whose trees hang over your fence, the world is full of petty animosity.

haha True mate.

 

[Midwest]

I know this thread never started out about Scottish Independence, but it seems it has gone that way.

'On 18 September 2014 the Scottish independence referendum took place and Scotland voted to stay part of the United Kingdom. Voters in Scotland were asked to answer Yes or No to the question “Should Scotland be an independent country?” 55.3% voted No and 44.7% voted Yes. 84.6% of the electorate participated in this historic vote to decide Scotland’s future'. (gov.uk).

2,001,926 (55.3%) voting against independence and 1,617,989 voted for (44.7%)(wikipedia).

If the remaining 15.4% had voted 'Yes', then the 'Yes' campaign would have won by 4.8% (think my maths is right).

I suppose you could say that the vote was close, but the majority voted 'No'. So that's that then, or do you keep having a vote on something until you get the result you want? Next year, next parliament or 41 years time, like the EU debate.

Whats more to be said? The referendums been held and the result received.

The North hate the South, which has been going on for centuries, and that's in England

So perhaps we should try and get on. The majority have spoken.

 

[Octopus]

I wonder why no one moans about the spending/head in Wales or NI ?

Because those countries don't have politicians who spend all their time talking about how the Westminster Parliament ruin their countries!

 

[sean_ork]

Because those countries don't have politicians who spend all their time talking about how the Westminster Parliament ruin their countries!

Yes of course, its only the Scots who dare raise their voices - or perhaps it's just another case of selective deafness.