downlighters on ground floor!

[HappyHippyDad]

I have been asked to fit downlighters to a hallway and also a kitchen all on the ground floor.

The customer would prefer me not to take up the carpet and floor boards above, but I cant see anyway around this? I might be lucky with the hallway and have them all in a straight line running the same way as the joists and manage it with cable rods but the kitchen will have the lights all over the place.

Is there anyway of doing this without taking up the floorboards?

Cheers all...

 

[shocking_eg]

6 hours for 6 lights ??

an hour per light ? LMAO !

 

[Guest55]

6 hours for 6 lights ??

an hour per light ? LMAO !

lol , and i thought i was brutal. :-D

 

[mickys86]

Post deleted - Forget I said that I can't be bothered to argue lol

 

[Stroppy]

6 hours for 6 lights ??

an hour per light ? LMAO !

No, 5 1/2 hours getting cables to the right place through key-hole surgery, and half an hour to make up and fit the lights.

This afternoon I had to extend a ring for a new socket 3 metres away from an existing one running surface (ok I spurred off a spur, but shhh!), and it took me over three hours. Why? Because I had to move wardrobe, bed, ----y glass display cabinet that had to be emptied of dozens of sh1tty little glass pigs and other smashable crap, do the wiring, then move all the junk back.

 

[shocking_eg]

To be fair jobs like that are rarely straight forward, without knowing the logistics of the job how can you comment?

i have never taken that long to retro fit 10 downlights let alone 6 ? that was with access from below only

yes i know, every job is different, but 6 hours ??? lol

 

[shocking_eg]

No, 5 1/2 hours getting cables to the right place through key-hole surgery, and half an hour to make up and fit the lights.

hah makes sense now.

if the joists are working against your cable runs id usually cut a 10" slot along the whole length of the ceiling.

then you can drill through properly, none of this clipping and putting metal plates on lol

simply screw back the board and fill / or usually leave that down to the decorator

 

[Guest55]

1 pendant per room = 20 mins.
lol
;-D

 

[shocking_eg]

1 pendant per room = 20 mins.
lol
;-D

lol.

all electrical jobs can be worked out with a few mathematic equations

 

[Stroppy]

.... and a lump hammer to get access to the joists

 

[HappyHippyDad]

6 hours for 6 lights ??

an hour per light ? LMAO !

10 mins per light. Many, many tea brakes. When I work I'm like a lightning bolt.................:2guns:

 

[Guest55]

When I work I'm like a lightning bolt.................:2guns:

........leaving everything in flames ?
snigger.
;-)

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Actually.. I am soooo slow. But he didn't mind, and I didn't mind. And you've never seen 6 downlights so beautifully aligned!

 

[Darkwood]

Explain to them that the ceiling will be extensively damaged and require re-boarding and redecorating after at extra cost, tell them you need to be accurate of fitting positions within the joist work and is hard to judge without carpets and boards up, also you need to be aware of other services like pipeworks which cant be easily guessed from below.... tell them the amount of work dust and mess would be limited if done from above where as it would be extensive the other way.... sell them the idea as we are generally all in agreement here so just brush up on you customer skills and don't let the cart lead the horse. ...... the amount of times ive been asked on a full rewire to try not damage the decor' as its only been done recently :banghead:

 

[richy3333]

Explain to them that the ceiling will be extensively damaged and require re-boarding and redecorating after at extra cost, tell them you need to be accurate of fitting positions within the joist work and is hard to judge without carpets and boards up, also you need to be aware of other services like pipeworks which cant be easily guessed from below.... tell them the amount of work dust and mess would be limited if done from above where as it would be extensive the other way.... sell them the idea as we are generally all in agreement here so just brush up on you customer skills and don't let the cart lead the horse. ...... the amount of times ive been asked on a full rewire to try not damage the decor' as its only been done recently :banghead:

It becomes like a red rag to a bull and I have to accidentally damage the decor then!

 

[Dave 85]

Explain to them that the ceiling will be extensively damaged and require re-boarding and redecorating after at extra cost, tell them you need to be accurate of fitting positions within the joist work and is hard to judge without carpets and boards up, also you need to be aware of other services like pipeworks which cant be easily guessed from below.... tell them the amount of work dust and mess would be limited if done from above where as it would be extensive the other way.... sell them the idea as we are generally all in agreement here so just brush up on you customer skills and don't let the cart lead the horse. ...... the amount of times ive been asked on a full rewire to try not damage the decor' as its only been done recently :banghead:

Nonsense
Ive done hundreds of downlighter jobs without lifting floors OR having to get the ceiling reboarded. Theres more than one way to skin a cat. I normally give the client the option but Im perfectly happy to do it from below.