ebola

[SJD]

Not a very well considered question, many of the people entering the UK from Ebola areas are UK citizens going back home. How are you going to stop them reentering the UK?

Actually, if the situation gets bad enough, yes - but perhaps not so much as a ban, rather that there will be no flights to/from the affected countries and the land borders will be closed.

 

[Badged01]

Not a very well considered question, many of the people entering the UK from Ebola areas are UK citizens going back home. How are you going to stop them reentering the UK?

We can but herd them into a holding centre til they are clear!! Some nice unused RAF bases in Scotland would do fine, and should there be an outbreak to the local poplace then the collateral damage up there would be acceptable ..... :angel_smile:

 

[Marvo]

Better start building refugee camps on one of the Channel Islands then.

 

[Badged01]

Better start building refugee camps on one of the Channel Islands then.

Gosh no-way, they are nice holiday destinations and places to visit ..... dont want them getting infected and closed down!!

 

[Guest111]

The incubation period is far too long for any testing at the airports to be of any use,plus due to the method of transmission then if one person on a plane was found to be potentially infected then that would mean everyone on board the plane would need to be quaranteened.There is really no way to prevent the spread of this disease without some form of mass vaccination programme,lets be honest if we prevented anyone entering our borders from one of the african countries,what prevents a potentially infected person coming here via another country,or someone from the sudan entering say france or germany,infecting someone there and then them entering the uk?The whole dynamic of this sitation is massive and the least helpful thing to do is panic,we've seen the same thing with sars,legionaires and some other nasty things in the past.

 

[Badged01]

.... and some other nasty things in the past.

I remember catching some of those 'nasty' diseases when I was working in the far east but the doctor always gave me penicillin and that cured it.

Perhaps its just a programme of penicillin immunisation that we need .......

 

[Spoon]

Im thinking of going a Michael Jackson (I don't mean sleep with little boys) and get an oxygen tent. Stay in there for the next two months. It will all be sorted after that....

 

[egg67]

So they turn up at airport , do you have a high temp answer no , do you have any drugs on you answer no, do you have a passport on you answer no. Then hello and welcome please walk in.

 

[Besoeker]

According to the last publicised figures there have been aproximately 4000 deaths since the current outbreak emerged. In the same period 30000 people have died from malaria and over 300,000 children have died from easily preventable diseases.

Heart disease and strokes between them result is about 14,000,000 deaths a year.
By way of contrast, Ebola a mere 4,000. In six months.
A trivial, almost insignificant, number by comparison it would appear.

But that's not really the whole story. As I posted earlier, it isn't just about absolute numbers. It's the rate of increase that is of concern.

In 12 years, world heart disease and stroke fatalities have risen by about 17%, roughly mirroring the population growth over that period.

By way of contrast, Ebola fatalities have risen by about 8,000% in around six months.

Some more numbers.
In six months Ebola has killed ten times as many people as bird flu did in ten years.
There is no comparison.

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not scaremongering. Just trying to give some context.
It may well be that the current outbreak gets contained regionally but it just might not be as trivial as some here seem to be suggesting.

 

[Spoon]

And here lies the problem.... Who to beleave...
We can beleave what the politicians tell you, as they lie.
We can beleave what we hear on TV because they love to scare monger. It helps with the ratings...

 

[Badged01]

And here lies the problem.... Who to beleave....

I always find it helps if you only believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear ......

 

[telectrix]

can't hear ebola so ignore it. :ack2:

 

[trev]

Tell you what I can't believe. The suggestions that our borders should be shut thus closing down access to this country from others. Suppose one of your children was displaying symptoms after being away on holiday, I bet you wouldn't be bloody bleating on about closing borders then. Idiots.
Yeah, let's all panic and run round like headless chickens, let's paralyse international trade because some of those bugs might be transmissible on produce that we buy from these countries. Let's shut down all international transport because you never know who some of those nasty. dirty foreigners might have been rubbing up against.
The same hysteria was put about by the media previously and they were left with egg on their faces when it turned to naught. The fact of the matter is that if it comes here it comes here and there's sweet bugger all anyone can do about it because unless we behave like the village of Ely during the great plague we have no means of dealing with it effectively.
Now can we please stop panicking and get on with things.

 

[trev]

Heart disease and strokes between them result is about 14,000,000 deaths a year.
By way of contrast, Ebola a mere 4,000. In six months.
A trivial, almost insignificant, number by comparison it would appear.

But that's not really the whole story. As I posted earlier, it isn't just about absolute numbers. It's the rate of increase that is of concern.

In 12 years, world heart disease and stroke fatalities have risen by about 17%, roughly mirroring the population growth over that period.

By way of contrast, Ebola fatalities have risen by about 8,000% in around six months.

Some more numbers.
In six months Ebola has killed ten times as many people as bird flu did in ten years.
There is no comparison.

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not scaremongering. Just trying to give some context.
It may well be that the current outbreak gets contained regionally but it just might not be as trivial as some here seem to be suggesting.

In six months time the outbreak will have subsided, there'll be a decrease of a similar magnitude. It's what usually happens with ebola, when my brother worked in Gabon about 7 years ago there was an outbreak there. It arose out of nowhere, killed a few hundred people in a relatively small area then disappeared again. It wasn't reported anywhere in the western media.
It will disappear again, the world will return to a state of complacency and a force fed diet of celebrity gossip but we'll still have the other problems you mentioned mate.

 

[telectrix]

you's worrying me trev. you's getting far too sensible in yoer old age. have some :

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