EICR Code for no main earth

[mamba]

Throw this out there what code would you put down on a EICR report where "There is no Main Earth to the installation??

 

[D Skelton]

C2 is the only code this situation warrants

 

[Silly Sausage]

Throw this out there what code would you put down on a EICR report where "There is no Main Earth to the installation??

If you mean the Main Earth Conductor? I found one missing on a Periodic once at a Pharmacy in Bradford, so I just fitted one and moved on. I was on wages at the time!

 

[mamba]

Yep I had day with field engineer as a QS and his words exactly only C2 however.... page 118 NICEIC Inspect and test says it is a C1 ??? contradiction again I ask my lord...

 

[spark 68]

Yep I had day with field engineer as a QS and his words exactly only C2 however.... page 118 NICEIC Inspect and test says it is a C1 ??? contradiction again I ask my lord...

It is not an immediate Danger, it would take a second fault (L to E) to become so, hence a C2 potentially dangerous, Niccy don't write the rules they just like to think they do.

 

[danzor]

Contradiction to what? We are trained to BS7671 not the NICEIC toilet paper

 

[telectrix]

i'd agree with a C2 as it would require a fault ( live part to exposed part ) to present a danger.

 

[Octopus]

was the installation relying on the water main as its earth?

 

[nickblake]

It all depends on the circumstances No main earth not a good one most situations it would be a C2 i have come across a similar situation where there was an induced voltage of 85 volts in that scenario i would give it a C1

 

[GT1]

Yep ditto the above. Quite often find induced voltages of that size.. Nowhere to go without the main bond..!

 

[D Skelton]

Induced voltages of up to 85?! Really?

Capacitively coupled phantom voltage maybe, but not induced.

 

[GT1]

haha. I'll bow to your superior knowledge of the physics and just agree. !

 

[Silly Sausage]

Another way of looking at it...is that it is a very high impedance voltage source.
So the reading depends on the input impedance of the test voltmeter.
Also, why it it doesn't present a shock hazard.

 

[uksparks]

Yes C2 because C1 is for immediate dangers, where there is no earth it's only a C2 as its 'potentially dangerous'.

 

[NickD]

C2 and absolutely go to town on it in the Summary and Observations. If it were me, I think I'd do some sort of covering letter or note to the person ordering the report.