EICR - PLASTIC CONSUMER UNIT CODE C2 or C3

[Octopus]

If you apply C3's for plastic Cu's, then most EICR' s would need littered with C3's

Where would it end ...

 

[Dillb]

You would surely code in accordance to what you have coded 4.14 & 5.17 on the tick sheets wouldnt you?

 

[johnduffell]

Cables in escape routes are not normally visible so would surely be a lim.

Maybe not, as the issue comes when they are visible-and only within trunking or cable clips. if not , and the ceiling is plasterboard, then they're not liable to premature collapse.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

One of the problems I have with this Consumer Unit issue, is that it is not the Wiring Regulations that should have changed, but the BS EN standards that relate to Consumer Units.
Of course, what has happened, is that both have changed.

 

[Midwest]

Wish there was so much open discussion and debate on whether me ball joint on me van was a pass or a fail, on its mot last time out.

If none of you can agree on this one point, how do you agree on the rest of the book?

Incidentally, once you've obtained an EICR course or training, at what point can you start giving your competent judgmental opinions; straight away, few months experience or when you're old & crusty like Westwood, no offence Westy.

 

[Spoon]

Wish there was so much open discussion and debate on whether me ball

Do not want to discuss your balls..

If none of you can agree on this one point, how do you agree on the rest of the book

My post is my personal opinion. I do not do EICR's so it doesn't affect anyone really. Just shocked to think that anyone would even consider giving a CU a C2 just because it's plastic.

 

[Pete999]

Do not want to discuss your balls..



My post is my personal opinion. I do not do EICR's so it doesn't affect anyone really. Just shocked to think that anyone would even consider giving a CU a C2 just because it's plastic.

Bang on, Spoon

 

[The Ghost]

Life is full of risk,its good to reduce that risk but lets not go over the top

It is hardly "going over the top" bringing to the attention of a home owner a potential risk it is more by way of advice it is not as if it is a judgement from the Lord high executioner it is simply sage advice. The fact the risk as perceived by you @Des 56 is miniscule does not detract from the fact that certain professional bodies have deemed it a risk who are in a better position to assess that risk certainly more so than mere personal opinion and subjective conjecture. I see no reason to fly in the face of that and refuse to acknowledge and inform others who can then make their own decision as to how to handle it.

 

[Octopus]

Just shocked to think that anyone would even consider giving a CU a C2 just because it's plastic.

And that is where the BPG comes in - it clearly states examples where a plastic CU could be coded C3

 

[telectrix]

so, a plastic CU that's properlyinstalled gets a C£ code. Customer then decides to have it replaced with a metal CU.This is done by a wet-behind-the -ears Electrical Trainee, with loose terminations, ropey cable dressing, and an indecipherable EIC. and you call that an improvement???

 

[Pete999]

It is hardly "going over the top" bringing to the attention of a home owner a potential risk it is more by way of advice it is not as if it is a judgement from the Lord high executioner it is simply sage advice. The fact the risk as perceived by you @Des 56 is miniscule does not detract from the fact that certain professional bodies have deemed it a risk who are in a better position to assess that risk certainly more so than mere personal opinion and subjective conjecture. I see no reason to fly in the face of that and refuse to acknowledge and inform others who can then make their own decision as to how to handle it.

Have you been at the Dictionary again this morning Tel, all these big words and precise statements?

 

[telectrix]

pete, you have quoted Vorty's post and replied tome. you really must stop using wine bottle bottoms and chicken wire for glasses. .

 

[Pete999]

pete, you have quoted Vorty's post and replied tome. you really must stop using wine bottle bottoms and chicken wire for glasses. .

Sorry about that Tel " will do better next time"

 

[Spoon]

so, a plastic CU that's properly installed gets a C3 code. Customer then decides to have it replaced with a metal CU.This is done by a wet-behind-the -ears Electrical Trainee, with loose terminations, ropey cable dressing, and an indecipherable EIC. and you call that an improvement???

You forgot.... Then come January all the circuits going into the CU get a C3 for not having any AFDD's

 

[The Ghost]

This is done by a wet-behind-the -ears Electrical Trainee, with loose terminations, ropey cable dressing, and an indecipherable EIC. and you call that an improvement???

Installations by incompetent persons is a different matter to coding a plastic CU. I usually advise customers to fireproof the stairs themselves rather than change the CU. I often see understairs packed to the gunnels with property. And the wooden understairs is exposed looking like it would go up like a tinder box. Remember that a C3 is not compulsory it is advisory, surely there is no harm in advising where there is a risk?