EU Brexit - How will you vote given the latest "news"

[Darkwood]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

That's just not true. First of all, Ireland never voted to leave the EU, it voted to reject the Lisbon Treaty. The Irsish governmet went to the EU with its concerns, renegotiated terms and the Irispeople then accepted them. That's not bullying, not by any means.

Your correct, I meant to put Euro not EU, had the vote been recognised as Ireland on its own then it would have seen them in a forced exit from the Euro, because Ireland was the only country to hold a referendum on the new treaty when they voted No it put the whole Lisbon Treaty on hold and the only way it could come into play was Ireland to leave the EU or for another referendum, Ireland were not offered anything really just comforting words, the treaty wasn't changed but a massive EU driven Yes campaign was devised on how things had been changed and revised when in fact nothing had, I think they were given a position in the new central powerhouse which equates to nothing if you voice is never heard. I call been given the option to leave or accept a bullying tactic and what exactly is the Lisbon treaty, it centralises the EU power house and takes control of alot of its members affairs so it can imply rules and laws without any obstacles that had previously proved to be a big problem for turning the EU into a state, we were promised a referendum ourselves but they changed the name and Gorden Brown robbed us of our vote which was against EU legislation although who are they to point this out at the risk of the Lisbon Treaty been scrapped.

 

[egg67]

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Sorry hit wrong button, just think about what EU started out as it was supposed to be a free market between all European countries but what happened they change their name like a powerful they decided that they were in charge I decided that we would have one coin coin to buy have goats they decided that they could override our own government with decisions that they make they decided that it was okay from my five-year-old son who is six on Saturday this is the comment like to makepoo on the loo

 

[diditrain]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

The people wanting us to stay in will be protected from the bad points that will inevitably come with it. They will not have to live next door or mingle with all those who will come to our shores. Germany is now flooded with rapists, sex pests and the worst is probably yet to come.
Do you want the same?

 

[andyb]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

The people wanting us to stay in will be protected from the bad points that will inevitably come with it. They will not have to live next door or mingle with all those who will come to our shores. Germany is now flooded with rapists, sex pests and the worst is probably yet to come.
Do you want the same?

A very well thought out insightful argument for leaving the EU.
You've just about won me over with that post.
Well done.

 

[newtothis]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

[FONT=&amp]Don't forget, the reason dopey Dave was forced to offer us this choice; was to stop half his gasping, self-serving mob defecting to UKIP
before the last election.
That's just my opinion. it could be true though. [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]We will be subjected to all the scare tactics, and propaganda under the sun. To stay in this failing, corrupt union.
I have faith that the Great British public will 'see through it', and vote NO[/FONT]

 

[Darkwood]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

I don't think its going to be such a smooth run for the brexit crew, the BBC is supplimented by the EU so is the CBI and they advise UK business now with the BBC doing a lot of the coverage lets see just how balanced it really is, so far It has already been biased to showing more news on the In campaign and thats before its even started once an agreement is supposedly done, watch out for who exactly you see promoting the stay in campaign and you can bet a lot of what you see will have vested interest in keeping us in as they are receiving 'lets call them perks' from the Brussels corrupt power house.... its strange how the EU chooses to suppliment groups and business that could influence the public mind.

We pay them to pay companies to tell us they are nice and its good to be part of a failing non democratic, power hungry union, it just a good job not all our media is getting EU suppliments, what is worse and scary is the fact the EU sent out pamphlets discussing putting positive EU discussions in the classroom and having it as part of the national curriculum but as this isn't a balanced open lesson it is what I would class as Brain Washing the next generation, the scary part is that it has already found its way into the classroom even today.

Yes its clear I'm against been part of the EU and I don't deny that but I'm hoping that some on the fence will see a documentary that is been made about the truth of the EU which doesn't just talk the talk but shows the evidence of why the EU is failing and the news stories that are not getting to our shores for fear of it influencing our position.

 

[Octopus]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

I don't think its going to be such a smooth run for the brexit crew, the BBC is supplimented by the EU so is the CBI and they advise UK business now with the BBC doing a lot of the coverage lets see just how balanced it really is, so far It has already been biased to showing more news on the In campaign and thats before its even started once an agreement is supposedly done, watch out for who exactly you see promoting the stay in campaign and you can bet a lot of what you see will have vested interest in keeping us in as they are receiving 'lets call them perks' from the Brussels corrupt power house.... its strange how the EU chooses to suppliment groups and business that could influence the public mind.

Hum..... the BBC being balanced - hardly. They don't know what that means these days.

A go back a decade or more, the BBC reported the news as facts, now they report what they want us to think. The BBC is nothing more than a tabloid TV channel

 

[andyb]

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I don't think its going to be such a smooth run for the brexit crew, the BBC is supplimented by the EU so is the CBI and they advise UK business now with the BBC doing a lot of the coverage lets see just how balanced it really is, so far It has already been biased to showing more news on the In campaign and thats before its even started once an agreement is supposedly done, watch out for who exactly you see promoting the stay in campaign and you can bet a lot of what you see will have vested interest in keeping us in as they are receiving 'lets call them perks' from the Brussels corrupt power house.... its strange how the EU chooses to suppliment groups and business that could influence the public mind.

We pay them to pay companies to tell us they are nice and its good to be part of a failing non democratic, power hungry union, it just a good job not all our media is getting EU suppliments, what is worse and scary is the fact the EU sent out pamphlets discussing putting positive EU discussions in the classroom and having it as part of the national curriculum but as this isn't a balanced open lesson it is what I would class as Brain Washing the next generation, the scary part is that it has already found its way into the classroom even today.

Yes its clear I'm against been part of the EU and I don't deny that but I'm hoping that some on the fence will see a documentary that is been made about the truth of the EU which doesn't just talk the talk but shows the evidence of why the EU is failing and the news stories that are not getting to our shores for fear of it influencing our position.

How is the BBC and CBI 'supplemented' by the EU?
I think you'll find the BBC coverage balanced, it certainly has been up to now.

Any chance of a link to this documentary you mention, I like to see all views.

I think you'll find that to have any pro political viewpoint in the national curriculum is illegal,

In all truth the only biased reporting I see in the media is with some newspapers. That's the Mail, Express, Sun and the Telegraph. The Express is rabid, not seen it today but I'd bet blind that there will be anti EU scare stories if not on the front page then in the next few.

 

[Octopus]

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How is the BBC and CBI 'supplemented' by the EU?


I think you'll find the BBC coverage balanced, it certainly has been up to now.

Any chance of a link to this documentary you mention, I like to see all views.

I think you'll find that to have any pro political viewpoint in the national curriculum is illegal,

In all truth the only biased reporting I see in the media is with some newspapers. That's the Mail, Express, Sun and the Telegraph. The Express is rabid, not seen it today but I'd bet blind that there will be anti EU scare stories if not on the front page then in the next few.

The BBC receive funding from the EU

are you serious?

 

[Darkwood]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

The millions in EU funding the BBC tried to hide | Coffee House

Now tell me they are playing with a balanced deck

 

[andyb]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

The BBC receive funding from the EU

are you serious?

I'm serious, Darkwood said that the bbc was supplemented by the EU
It gets grants for research, I think about 1/2 a million last year. Compared with the 3 1/2 billion or so that it gets from the license fee I would hardly call that supplementing the license fee.
They can't use the money for program making and do you really think that journalists would lower themselves to biased reporting because the BBC gets a grant from a certain source. It's not the Telegraph we're talking about.

 

[andyb]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

The millions in EU funding the BBC tried to hide | Coffee House

Now tell me they are playing with a balanced deck

I wouldn't dream of saying that, I've already mentioned the biased media in post 98.

 

[Darkwood]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

I'm serious, Darkwood said that the bbc was supplemented by the EU
It gets grants for research, I think about 1/2 a million last year. Compared with the 3 1/2 billion or so that it gets from the license fee I would hardly call that supplementing the license fee.
They can't use the money for program making and do you really think that journalists would lower themselves to biased reporting because the BBC gets a grant from a certain source. It's not the Telegraph we're talking about.

I agree with the sums you quote but why did the BBC deliberatly hide it and not reveal it as they had a obligation to do so, when this originally came out they had some very difficult questions to answer, the 3million plus is nothing to what the tv licensee puts in and its always been argued that this is very suspicious indeed, it was eventually claimed to be for research and developement with 1million on programming but what research and what programming... that's when they went silent, this all stinks like a backhander that got exposed and to keep the lie up they had to keep it going... strange it happened after the Labour lost who the EU want to be back in the driving seat for many reasons - But hey that's just me speculating.

 

[telectrix]

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hmm.i think that we need to get the Sun into the equation. the Sun pushing for a No vote. after all, back in 1997, they supported the grinning money grabber blair and allowed him to destroy GB.

 

[telectrix]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

pity we can't resurrect de gaulle, franco, mussoline , and hitler. that would put a spoke on the wheels .