Green Deal Update

[Greenday]

We should be a GDAO within 3 weeks and are a green deal installer for renewables and gas.

Some of the GDP we have spoken to didnt really match our expectations and we were looking for a friendlier one who might allow us to make a reasonable profit and be paid in an acceptable time scale.

Thanks for your help anyway

 

[sedgy34]

We should be a GDAO within 3 weeks and are a green deal installer for renewables and gas.

Some of the GDP we have spoken to didnt really match our expectations and we were looking for a friendlier one who might allow us to make a reasonable profit and be paid in an acceptable time scale.

Thanks for your help anyway

where in midlands are you

 

[Greenday]

Birmingham

 

[sedgy34]

Pm me we are in Birmingham too we maybe able to help

 

[SRE]

Breaking: Green Deal gathers pace after 7,400 assessments lodged in second month- Businessgreen mobile watch out Sedgy things could be looking up for Green Deal

 

[sedgy34]

Ur off the fence then ehh lol

 

[SRE]

Nope, been there, done that, got the T-shirt and was delighted when I got off the bus! It would take a massive surge in GD PV work for me to want to get involved Anyway Barking tells too many porky pies - he's probably written this himself lol.

 

[Eco Deal]

just read the theard , and yes we completed 3 trial jobs and all done and dusted signed off by ofgem etc today.

So we are happy and all the doubt as gone I took a gamble in Jan 2012 for this and its looks like I may have made a good choice time will tell.

Me & sedgy have been chatting daily now for mths and helping each other understand the system and are learning form each other

getting accredited is the easy part learning and finding your way takes time and effort so its not like MCS was jump on it and start.

you got to build relationships up with providers and eco funding brokers and get on personal talking terms which took me around 8-9 months.

if you start now you be ready in about 8-9 mths.

hope solar picks up but I lost all faith even turned down two jobs because I know its just not worth it.

 

[sedgy34]

Time to move on from solar Pv I'm sorry to say maybe the GD will kick start it again but the installer will have to be pas2030 this could kill off the cowboys
we will still do solar as and when it comes in

 

[Gavin A]

We're getting around the same rate of inquiries coming in for solar PV as we did in the summer of 2011, just a lot more of them are commercial, and the main motivating factor is energy saving.

There was apparently 0.5GWp of solar installed in the last quarter, mostly in the solar farms segments, but there's every indication that there is a lot of pent up solar demand out there, and IMO the floodgates will open on that demand once this autumns electricity price rises are announced in the Autumn, and hit the bills next winter / spring.

There is also more interest in renewable heat filtering in, seemingly despite the RHI debacle, plus insulation work etc with or without green deal now that the free insulation stuff has dried up.

We just need a decent summer now and things should be looking up, particularly IF they actually do announce the RHI rates in the summer, which should then see a surge in demand for renewable heat prior to the autumn.

Effectively IMO green deal is just a finance method which may be suitable for a proportion of the population, but the demand is there regardless of it for effective energy saving measures that will pay for themselves in a reasonable timescale, and this demand will only increase with the energy price rises built in for later this year.

 

[Eco Deal]

you might be at 2011 levels for enquiry's but what about profit per job is about 75% less than 2011????

We all doing solar for nothing 4 kwp at £4900 ish gives the installer £400-£500 for a job he must warrant for 10 years or more

just no sense in it

 

[Gavin A]

who says we're doing 4kW for £4900?

If we were then I'd agree with you, but we're not because that would be commercial suicide.

I'm not saying everything is rosy yet, but when the inquiries are coming in faster than we can deal with them, then I don't see why we'd want to also spend lots of time trying to get in to green deal. It certainly isn't the only game in town.

 

[moggy1968]

We're getting around the same rate of inquiries coming in for solar PV as we did in the summer of 2011, just a lot more of them are commercial, and the main motivating factor is energy saving.

There was apparently 0.5GWp of solar installed in the last quarter, mostly in the solar farms segments, but there's every indication that there is a lot of pent up solar demand out there, and IMO the floodgates will open on that demand once this autumns electricity price rises are announced in the Autumn, and hit the bills next winter / spring.

There is also more interest in renewable heat filtering in, seemingly despite the RHI debacle, plus insulation work etc with or without green deal now that the free insulation stuff has dried up.

We just need a decent summer now and things should be looking up, particularly IF they actually do announce the RHI rates in the summer, which should then see a surge in demand for renewable heat prior to the autumn.

Effectively IMO green deal is just a finance method which may be suitable for a proportion of the population, but the demand is there regardless of it for effective energy saving measures that will pay for themselves in a reasonable timescale, and this demand will only increase with the energy price rises built in for later this year.

but Gavin, you forget, the energy minister told us bills would only go up by £12 in the next billion years!. Are you seriously asking me to believe he might be talking out of his backside (although that would explain why it sounded a bit muffled!):rolleyes4:

 

[Earthstore]

I do think it as admirable that a couple of you to gone the GD route, and I do admire you for all the expense and time you have dedicated to this, which, in view of previous politics in renewables would not have been a decision taken lightly and certainly was not without risk, and I sincerely wish you all success and I am sure we would all be grateful if you could post occasionally to let us know how you are doing as you have both been good contributors here on this forum.

However, I get the impression that many others on here feel that it is not the way forward for their business or customers, we all know that PV when installed correctly is a long term asset to any home or business, the problem is the goal posts keep moving, the whole process gets more and more complex, with flawed procedures being forced upon the industry, but I guess that is politics for you.

The GD may well work for some customers, however the whole thing is wide open to misuse, Once any company goes through the process of being registered they can then sub all the work out and it does not get checked for a year, we have all seen this before in the renewables industry, and what a disaster that has been for some of the customers.
This is also where you can get somebody from one trade all of a sudden being an expert in another, like electricians becoming roofers for example.

I am not having a dig at anybody that is trying to succeed within the system, more trying to explain how wrong the system is.

In the long term I can not see the GD working, but now it appears to be moving I think there may be a few that have taken the risk to join may well benefit for a while.

What is strange is we actually need renewables, or some form of generating power, Didcot power station has recently closed due to EU rules over emmisions, what has been put in place to generate the power that they used to put into the grid? As far as I am aware nothing, so unless something is done soon we are heading for some serious problems for energy supply here in the UK.

Only time will tell on these points raised.

 

[Gavin A]

Didcot power station has recently closed due to EU rules over emmisions,

closure brought forward 3 years by imposition of an additional carbon tax by Osbourne, which had nowt to do with EU rules... fwiw.