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They bake their bread in such a naughty shape
More room in the CU to work, wago'd earth bar, double pole breakers, no dreadful flat profile cable, more appliances on separate circuits giving better selectivity, main switch provided on incoming head as standard, pre-sleeved earth wires, pre-wired conduit, better selection of fittings (especially for lights), better light switch rocker size, no ring final's, better looking plugs, variable supply (bringing it down brings standing charge down), colour coded cable so you can see on sight what size it is....
So good old 6242Y doesn't float your boat, either, huh?
No it's awful.
I'm curious now. Slate slate or tiles slate?
As long as you choose the right CU then there's not much issue with ours.
Interesting, that sounds like a good idea, do you have an example of this?
Yes because they require them for safety on their single phase circuits, our single phase supplies/circuits are safe with DP MCB's. DP MCB's and DBs are available in the UK when they are required.
Whats wrong with flat profile cable?
I'm not sure how this affects selectivity?
Interesting, I'm aware of the need for an RCD/RCBO at the supply head due to their common earthing systems and restricted current supplies.
Why does that matter?
Whats that look like? Doesn't that defeat the object of having conduit in the first place?
OK, but that's personal choice and I can't say I've ever had an issue with the available selection of light fittings in this country.
If you want bigger switch rockers you can get them in this country.
Why is that better? It's just a different way of doing things.
Really? That's such a subjective thing and really not important is it?
Does it, or rather, would it?
I hadn't realised that idea had spread to mainland Europe, I thought it was only in the USA that domestic electricians needed colour coded cables to be able to identify their size!
I really don't see how you can describe UK electrical installations as a horror show.
We have spacious boards, although not historically common in domestic installations as we don't generally require so much room for protective devices.
Very common here and usually require half as much real estate in domestic boards.
Of no relevance to the subject. Sheath only needs to enter the board and it is generally the case that only individual conductors are brought forward.
No reason that wouldn't be the case in the UK. The difference being we have more choice where circuit design is concerned.
DNO equipment is of no relevance when comparing the niceties of French CUs.
We can have those too. Again a matter of us having more choices available in circuit design.
Not sure how that's a benefit, unless cable type and size is limited. Seems like a nightmare for wholesalers, unless this convenience is limited to specific circumstances. Imagine how much more storage would be required if all cable arrived in its own containment. Is only one type of conduit available or does all of the above have to be stocked in multiple conduit sizes?
Perhaps you haven't seen the choices available in the UK?
Seems reasonable, but how do you determine type of colour indicates size.
Can you do plumbing again? It's been a while.
Very cool. Do they have to pin the verge slates, or will the clips hold them in place too?
It won't last like Welsh slate boyo
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