Help pricing 3 bed rewire please

[mr_deep_]

Hi All - Hope you all had a good Christmas!

I have just recently started my own business and struggle to price work as never had anything to do with that side of things in the past.

Job is to Rewire a 3 bed Detached house

Attic - New radial circuit with 2 sockets. 2 lighting points with 1 two way switch (to first floor landing) - (Attic fully boarded)

1st floor -
3 bedrooms each with 3 new chased twin sockets. Each with 1 lighting point and 1 switch. Main bedroom to have wardrobe lighting point with single switch (chased). 2 bedrooms to have Switched fused spur + install ring camera back entry to external wall.

Bathroom - 1 lighting point 1 switch, 1x 12v outlet (from lighting circuit) 1 extract via 3 pole isolator

Hallway - 1 new wall light with 1 way switch. Landing light with 2 way switch to ground floor. 1 twin socket (chased).

Mid staircase- New twin socket


Ground floor

Hallway - 1 twin socket chased. 4 spot lights. 2 way switching (hallway and living room).

Downstairs bathroom - 1 lighting point (1 switch). 1 extract via 3 pole isolator. 1x 12v shaver socket via lighting circuit.
Shower circuit via DP isolator.

Store room - 2 twin sockets (in stud wall). Lighting point (1 switch)

Living room - 7 twin sockets (chased). 2 lighting points (2 separate switches). Switched fused spur.

Garage - 3 sockets, 2 lights and 3 switch drops (intermediate switching) (sockets and switches in 20mm pvc conduit approx 12m to instal).
New fuse board + Test and certification. (Gas and water 10mm earth bonding already present).
No works in kitchen as is an extension and cable readings were satisfactory.

House completely empty - 1 man and 1 labourer to complete works

Any input feedback would be greatly appreciated ??

I do a drawing if that help

 

[mr_deep_]

Thanks all - This is all really useful information - And given me a lot to work with. Much appreciated ??

 

[Dustydazzler]

no problem

i struggled with pricing literally for years

until I started seeing what other sparks were charging and realised I was about 50% too cheap

 

[buzzlightyear]

estimated 7 days with a labourer so - Priced them £2100 - For labour only - Thoughts on this anyone

7days @£280..=2,000 grand plus matirals s average 800.00.

 

[telectrix]

7days @£280..=2,000 grand plus matirals

too cheap buzz. no beer money in that.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

£2100 is definitely under priced. However, with it being your first rewire then perhaps just go with that price as the experience will be great. I underpriced my first rewire, but I'm glad I did as it was good to get one under the belt. Next time give a more 'average' quote as you don't want a reputation for being cheap.
I would be about £5000 in total.

 

[mr_deep_]

£2100 is definitely under priced. However, with it being your first rewire then perhaps just go with that price as the experience will be great. I underpriced my first rewire, but I'm glad I did as it was good to get one under the belt. Next time give a more 'average' quote as you don't want a reputation for being cheap.
I would be about £5000 in total.

Cheers bud appreciate that - I am half way through the job and its been 4 days GRAFT - Have been thinking either im really slow or I have underpriced my labour - Priced it at £200 a day (£25/hr) for my labour and £100 a day for my mate - Was hoping to get it wrapped up in 7 days - 1st fix 98% done - So hopefully get 2nd fix / DB and test squeezed in the last 3 days to make my money ?

 

[Dustydazzler]

7 days is about right for a full chased in 3 bedder rewire ( 1 sparks 1 apprentice.
2 sparks could probably crush it in 4 days flat if you work 10 hour days

 

[telectrix]

at my age 10 hour days are a big no-no. in a 24 hour day, 10 hours sleep, 8 hours rest and relaxation, including beer time, leaves 6 hours work time, and that's if I can be arsed getting out of a warm bed on a freezing cold mid-morning.

 

[Dustydazzler]

The way to really make money if your business is predominantly rewires is send in the labourers day 1 to rip up all the floors and chop out all the chases.
send in the apprentices day 2 to pull all the cables.
send in the plasters day 3 to fill up chases.
send the apprentices back day 4 to second fix,
send yourself in day 5 to consumer unit and Certs (home by 3)

 

[mr_deep_]

no problem

i struggled with pricing literally for years

until I started seeing what other sparks were charging and realised I was about 50% too cheap

This just happened to me as scrolling through other posts -

The way to really make money if your business is predominantly rewires is send in the labourers day 1 to rip up all the floors and chop out all the chases.
send in the apprentices day 2 to pull all the cables.
send in the plasters day 3 to fill up chases.
send the apprentices back day 4 to second fix,
send yourself in day 5 to consumer unit and Certs (home by 3)

I like the sound of that mate! Just need to establish myself n hopefully make it here 1 day ?

 

[telectrix]

send in the labourers day 1 to rip up all the floors and chop out all the chases. then spend half a day pacifying the customer and cleaning up
send in the apprentices day 2 to pull all the cables. another half day checking their work and rectifying the disasters
send in the plasters day 3 to fill up chases. and a day to find and dig out all your boxes
send the apprentices back day 4 to second fix, another day to put their work right
send yourself in day 5 to consumer unit and Certs (home by 3) youse avin a laff?

 

[Dustydazzler]

probably being a bit flippant , but I do reckon with a decent labourer team and 2 semi decent apprentices you could use this model for unoccupied rewires...

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Cheers bud appreciate that - I am half way through the job and its been 4 days GRAFT - Have been thinking either im really slow or I have underpriced my labour - Priced it at £200 a day (£25/hr) for my labour and £100 a day for my mate - Was hoping to get it wrapped up in 7 days - 1st fix 98% done - So hopefully get 2nd fix / DB and test squeezed in the last 3 days to make my money ?

I do rewires by myself and I expect it would take me around 3 weeks (15 -18 days) to complete the one you're doing, although it's impossible to say really without being there, plus i think im a bit slower than most. They are bloody hard work!
I doubt you'll get it finished in 3 days, why don't you give yourself 5 and take the pressure off a bit. You'll earn a bit less but enjoy it more ?.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I do rewires by myself and I expect it would take me around 3 weeks (15 -18 days) to complete the one you're doing, although it's impossible to say really without being there, plus i think im a bit slower than most. They are bloody hard work!
I doubt you'll get it finished in 3 days, why don't you give yourself 5 and take the pressure off a bit. You'll earn a bit less but enjoy it mor

I'm 61 years old rewire done in 2 weeks
That's be me self. I could teach you a things or two.. Lol.

 

[mr_deep_]

I do rewires by myself and I expect it would take me around 3 weeks (15 -18 days) to complete the one you're doing, although it's impossible to say really without being there, plus i think im a bit slower than most. They are bloody hard work!
I doubt you'll get it finished in 3 days, why don't you give yourself 5 and take the pressure off a bit. You'll earn a bit less but enjoy it more ?.

Nice 1 - I have got in the back of my mind that it may take longer but 3 days is my target - 10 mins per point and then 1 day for the CU test and wrapping up