Help with new regs regarding mini trunking.

[Kyran]

Hi all


As yet i don’t have the new regs book so I thought i would post my question.


I have a client that manages a block of flats. Its a mid 80s block that has one entrance/exit. As you walk in the font door the clients wants the current lights to come on as walk in. which is fine i was just going to put a directional PIR up over the door as the lights need also to come on when the residents open there doors and walk in to the hall way, which is the other end of the hall way to the front door.


Now in order to get the PIR up over the door I will need to run a cable along the ceiling from the first light that has the permanent live. Normally you would could just put the cable inside some mini trunking. But I know that in the new regs there has been some changes to its allowed use, i.e. as the mini turning melts in a fire the cables drop and there have been case when is hindered firemen. Now what is the permitted way to hold a cable to the ceiling so that in a fire it does not dip down. The distance is only about 2m but it would be right over the door.


Can anyone help tell me whats can be use.


Thank you

 

[D Skelton]

What result was that?

He got his all clear for chlamydia

 

[telectrix]

very good i can never spell clam/chalm. clamdia. oh bollox..... POX.

 

[ImpededLoop]

I think the OP's question is quite resonable. The BGB is still permitted to be used for design but the OP has heard of requirements in the new BYB which he/she wants to comply with. If this question had been asked in August 2015 then I agree that the OP would have been pushing their luck without owning the new book.

It's not like the OP is asking the forum to size a cable or to solve an RCD fault.

To answer the question, P clips are probably how I would do it.

 

[DPG]

Of all the forums I use this has got to be the most unfriendly one going. Sorry, but are we trying to scare people off here? I know people should have the new regs, but it was still a reasonable question to see what peoples thoughts were. Well done to the people that suggested the metal clips, etc. Maybe not everyone is aware of these. Daz

 

[DPG]

He's only trying to help, I don't see the problem here. He's suggested looking at these clips that's all. Daz

 

[Maddison]

why is it wrong for him to ask a question because he hasnt got a new update yet ?..

 

[Brightspark2]

We could of said that when you was asking for the information on emergency lighting periodic testing not too long ago...

 

[DPG]

There's no problem in him asking, that's why Tel, KFH and Handysparks all gave constructive replies, rather than pointless offensive ones. I've not seen the wire-type clips either so it was helpful for me as well. Daz

 

[Plonker 3]

We could of said that when you was asking for the information on emergency lighting periodic testing not too long ago...

The OP admitted to knowing of the publication, if someone had told me to obtain a copy i would have taken the advice and followed it up accordingly.

 

[Plonker 3]

There's no problem in him asking, that's why Tel, KFH and Handysparks all gave constructive replies, rather than pointless offensive ones. I've not seen the wire-type clips either so it was helpful for me as well. Daz

Well give them all a gold star for being star pupils, well done them. I hope they continue to carry on like that so i wont have to actually think about anything again or buy any more publications of books that may need in the future

 

[ImpededLoop]

With respect, I think that in this case the OP has an awareness of the new regulation and was just trying to meet the requirements with his new work. As the BGB is still accepted, he could have just said nothing and slung in some MT2, got paid and driven off content that he'd completed the job in a compliant way.

I agree with you that every installer should read and understand the relevant regulations for themselves, but we're talking about a few cable clips here, not anything too complex.

 

[DPG]

Well give them all a gold star for being star pupils, well done them. I hope they continue to carry on like that so i wont have to actually think about anything again or buy any more publications of books that may need in the future

Jeez Dillb I don't know why you bother posting on here - your replies are mostly offensive and rarely helpful. Daz

 

[Plonker 3]

Jeez Dillb I don't know why you bother posting on here - your replies are mostly offensive and rarely helpful. Daz

Please post up any offensive posts i have made, if you cant please remove this comment.

 

[DPG]

Well I've just searched the first page or two of your forum posts and I can't see many helpful ones It's all there. Daz

 

[D Skelton]

Ooooooooooooooooooooh...

My old man's a dustman he wears a dustman's hat, he wears 'cor blimey' trousers and he lives in a council flat...