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whats so slippery slopey about not wanting to reset someones RCD at 10pm, if i make enough 8-5 why would i bother getting dressed for work again to go sort a piddly little job for not much gain by the time the tax man has his.
not the point. if you run your own business, it's all part of it. fail here and you soon end up with no customers. if you are employed, it's a different kettle of squid.your employer would pay you a retainer to be on stand-by and an enhanced hourly rate for going out. with most firms , it's optional, but some employment contracts stipulate it, say on call 1 week in 4.
 
whats so slippery slopey about not wanting to reset someones RCD at 10pm, if i make enough 8-5 why would i bother getting dressed for work again to go sort a piddly little job for not much gain by the time the tax man has his.

Because you'll get a reputation for providing good service which will ultimately lead to more business :)
 
One of the tool makers couldn't be bothered to answer a call out over the Easter Holidays, a squad of fellas were sent home because the machine wasn't running, they lost out on a nights pay.

The toolmaker was sacked yesterday for an "unrelated" matter. In truth the management took an ugly to him around this and it was downhill from there.
 
Carry on with that attitude and you'll be getting undressed for work at 10pm.
not the point. if you run your own business, it's all part of it. fail here and you soon end up with no customers. if you are employed, it's a different kettle of squid.your employer would pay you a retainer to be on stand-by and an enhanced hourly rate for going out. with most firms , it's optional, but some employment contracts stipulate it, say on call 1 week in 4.
my time is more important to me, i already give 40-50 hours a week why would i want to give away more time when it is finite, if i worked for myself i simply would not offer out of hours, ive already got several good commercial contacts , i would simply subby myself out to them and make more per hour than i would working for them on the books

making money doesnt have to be as hard as you speak of, work to live, not live to work
 
You might get a reputation for all sorts of things but if you don't jump high enough then said customer will just go somewhere else anyway. If you are doing OK then stuff em, they won't have any loyalty from the other side of the coin. If it is a regular customer then that's another story.
 
my time is more important to me, i already give 40-50 hours a week why would i want to give away more time when it is finite, if i worked for myself i simply would not offer out of hours, ive already got several good commercial contacts , i would simply subby myself out to them and make more per hour than i would working for them on the books

making money doesnt have to be as hard as you speak of, work to live, not live to work
Good on you mate. This world is full of plonkers who think we were put on this planet to work our arse off to satisfy some demanding prat who would not shift an inch if the boot was on the other foot.
 
Maybe just a funny picture to you young man, but to those of us old enough to know better it's the first step down a slippery slope.

Aside from the fact that that's no way to run a business, it's an attitude that no employer wants to have anything to do with, believe you me.

Sure it's just a funny picture now, but what next? Cutting corners, producing shoddy work, failing to turn up to work at all...
Before you know it you'll be out of work, homeless, destitute and selling your bum on the streets.
Is that what you want? Because that's what'll happen.
Blimey sounds like an Evangelist preacher.
 
my time is more important to me, i already give 40-50 hours a week why would i want to give away more time when it is finite, if i worked for myself i simply would not offer out of hours, ive already got several good commercial contacts , i would simply subby myself out to them and make more per hour than i would working for them on the books

making money doesnt have to be as hard as you speak of, work to live, not live to work
I was just messing about but what Tel says makes sense - I've done commercial callout before and TBH it's easy money - you get a retainer and at least 2 hours' pay for every callout where you actually go out, which was rare, otherwise you just talk the duty manager through how to muddle through until the next day.
 
Small tale...not important...years back,i'm doing almost 90% of my work for one outfit,fit and keen and no kids yet,so 7 days is standard:eek:...i get a call at 10.30pm,and notice it is the director...i consider "latering" it,but begrudgingly answered.
It was the day of another terrorist attack,city centre,and assistance was required at a building, the construction side of the company had...

That one job,turned into almost 2 years of vastly varying tasks...and almost best part paid for the property i still live in :)

I have never worked out why,but the most fun,the best craic,the biggest earners and the best stories,have always come from chance meetings,and calls i've looked at,and thought "what now?...";)
 
Small tale...not important...years back,i'm doing almost 90% of my work for one outfit,fit and keen and no kids yet,so 7 days is standard:eek:...i get a call at 10.30pm,and notice it is the director...i consider "latering" it,but begrudgingly answered.
It was the day of another terrorist attack,city centre,and assistance was required at a building, the construction side of the company had...

That one job,turned into almost 2 years of vastly varying tasks...and almost best part paid for the property i still live in :)

I have never worked out why,but the most fun,the best craic,the biggest earners and the best stories,have always come from chance meetings,and calls i've looked at,and thought "what now?...";)
how many phonecalls have you answered that havent had such fruitful results though? the director of a company is a bit different to english barry down the street who probably wont even offer you a cup of tea and a biscuit

[ElectriciansForums.net] how to deal with a callout
 
Maybe just a funny picture to you young man, but to those of us old enough to know better it's the first step down a slippery slope.

Aside from the fact that that's no way to run a business, it's an attitude that no employer wants to have anything to do with, believe you me.

Sure it's just a funny picture now, but what next? Cutting corners, producing shoddy work, failing to turn up to work at all...
Before you know it you'll be out of work, homeless, destitute and selling your bum on the streets.
Is that what you want? Because that's what'll happen.
I'm not that young myself Adam! And just to let you know, I work for myself and have done for a long time. I always answer the phone and try to help my customers out when I can. As a one man business it's impossible to cover all call outs but I would never ignore them for the sake of it. The OP merely posted a funny picture which amused me!
 
In a previous life, I often got call outs at all hours. Took phone calls on my days off to talk over jobs, even took them when on holiday, for no extra pay.

Now days, nobody rings me at 10pm at night :( Got a text message at midnight once, read it the following morning. 'How much to come and turn my electrics back on?'. Rung the caller back, went to answerphone. Customer 1 me 0.

So you can shove yer call outs.
 

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