JIB grading

[dean7828]

hi guys could someone help with identifying what JIB grade i would be able to get with my current qualification as everyone seems to have different opinions on the matter, i currently hold.......

17th eddition
2391
NVQ L3
2330 L2 & L3

just been layed off so need the card instead of paying for a CSCS card. any advice would be great thanks in advance.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

You have the nvq3 so should be fine for electrician grade,i called them and dont have nvq3,they said id be graded as labourer,fair enough i said but is it time for me to throw my test kit away as no labourer should be allowed to do pirs or eics on commercial premises should they?jib man didnt know what to say.

sucks, doesn't it? hence my point about 'hung up about nvq 3.' maybe they're taking brown envelopes from the nvq awarding bodies??

 

[VoltzElectrical]

There needs to be a reconciliation between domestic sparks and site sparks. Sparks are sparks, or not. Weird scenario this split. You'd think JIB would be at the forefront of this.

 

[Risteard]

However i do have the AM2 as well and was graded as "Installation Electrician"

Installation Electrician is not actually a grade. It is an occupation.

The grade is at the bottom and might be Electrician, or Approved Electrician or Technician.

 

[timbobelfast]

I am in a similar position as the OP
I have 2351, NVQ 3 and 17th. Applied for my JIB card 6 weeks ago, and was returned my application last week. There was a letter stating that they either wanted my AM 2 certificate or I had to sign a sort of disclaimer stating that my application would have to go to the ' Grading Panel '

So the morale is, if you dont have AM 2 but everything else then your application will go to the grading panel.

 

[dean7828]

well now you c my concern, nothing seems to be set in stone and everyone has a different idea, as i have just been layed off im reluctant to pay for the am2 which i believe its a grade to prove you're practical knowledge, ive been a commercial spark for some time now and haven't got the money or energy to throw at this, im still paying for the past papers, being a spark used to be like printing money now its all about spending money to keep in the trade, something needs to give!

 

[mogga]

If you have been "Payed off" as in made redundant ,services no longer required as opposed to "layed off" ie we dont have enough work but will take you back in a couple of weeks
If PayedOFf and claiming JSA Im sure the broo would put you through yout AM2 so long as you could PROVE it would enhance your prospects of full time employment
Either way Best of luck with your job seeking it is **** out there right now and personaly I can only see it getting worse

 

[vernam616]

Why not just call the JIB as suggested? Would take 5mins and you would get a definate answer instead of a mixed bag

 

[Guest112]

you need the am2 to be a jib recognised spark end of take it from a jib card holder whos done all the fforms etc i agree with having the am2 as it is an exam of competency once youve got it no one can argue othertwise

you dont have to have the 17th aslong as you have 2330 + nvq 3 and the am2 you will be graded as an electrician i recommend the 17th update (unless you have equivalent) as its written on the back with the list of quals you have.

i dont see the problem are people scared to sit the am2????

 

[fuzzydunlop]

I phoned the JIB yesterday and they said that all is required to be graded as an electrician is 2330 2+3 and NVQ3

Am going to do the AM2 anyway as it will be beneficial to me seeing as I've gone the OLCI route of training

 

[vernam616]

To be graded "installation electrician" you need 17th edition, it actually says this on the form

Did they say they would definatly grade you electrician without am2?

 

[fuzzydunlop]

To be graded "installation electrician" you need 17th edition, it actually says this on the form

Did they say they would definatly grade you electrician without am2?

Yep, electrician. I posted up the link earlier but there is a difference on the ECS and JIB website as to gradings, I'm guessing the ECS is more upto date?

Could also be like everything else in this business (JIB C&G's etc..) no one knows what they're are talking about and are making it up as they go along

 

[vernam616]

In all fairness the whole thing is a farce and form filling is ridiculous, it needs to be milked down and a bit more clear

They usually print what they like on the back too, i sent everything i had and they only wrote 17th Edition and NVQ 3 on the back

 

[VoltzElectrical]

In all fairness the whole thing is a farce and form filling is ridiculous, it needs to be milked down and a bit more clear

They usually print what they like on the back too, i sent everything i had and they only wrote 17th Edition and NVQ 3 on the back

Thats because you can't get the NVQ 3 without the underpinning knowledge of the 2330. If your card says NVQ 3 it doesn't need to say 2330 because its a part of it.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

you need the am2 to be a jib recognised spark end of take it from a jib card holder whos done all the fforms etc i agree with having the am2 as it is an exam of competency once youve got it no one can argue othertwise

you dont have to have the 17th aslong as you have 2330 + nvq 3 and the am2 you will be graded as an electrician i recommend the 17th update (unless you have equivalent) as its written on the back with the list of quals you have.







i dont see the problem are people scared to sit the am2????

End of? Not really seeing as you're WRONG about that.

 

[vernam616]

Thats because you can't get the NVQ 3 without the underpinning knowledge of the 2330. If your card says NVQ 3 it doesn't need to say 2330 because its a part of it.

You can get 2356 NVQ3 with C&G 2360 PT1&2