Joining existing cooker cable

[clematis432]

Hi, neighbour has asked me if I would move his cooker control switch for him. Since new position of it is further away,this would require joining existing cable via JB or, as is preferable, running a new cable. Running a new cable is a fairly big job,so do the regs allow a JB to be used in this case. Cable is twin and earth 6mm. Thanks

 

[Pete999]

Do you have hat hair?

Ain't got any, hair that is, bald as a Badger's bum, do yourself a favour rewire the cooker, you will sleep better.

 

[Strima]

Wago do a MF connectors rated to 41 amps: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1782747.pdf

 

[westward10]

Uninsulated butt connectors, solder, sleeve within an enclosure. Job done.

 

[westward10]

Thought that, I could use a metal 150mm x 150mm JB with stuffing glands then ?

A metal enclosure would require an earth, a connection which would need to be accessible.

 

[Midwest]

I've extended an existing cooker circuit in a kitchen refurb, using the aforementioned Wago 773's and a surface box. With the box mounted in the rear of a kitchen wall unit.

 

[ipf]

Wago do 6mm connectors but I dont think 2x 6mm cables will fit into a wagobox. Crimp or solder connections.

Put them in an pvc adaptable box, then.

 

[Andy78]

Wago do a MF connectors rated to 41 amps: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1782747.pdf

They are only rated for MF when used within their Wagobox enclosures, a type tested thing I think.
You're never getting 2 x 6mm twins in one of those boxes though.

 

[Pete999]

Put them in an adaptable box, then.

Will that still be considered MF ipf? like the idea, but just questioning the vaugeries of the rules.

 

[Strima]

They are only rated for MF when used within their Wagobox enclosures, a type tested thing I think.
You're never getting 2 x 6mm twins in one of those boxes though.

This is the problem with manufacturers, there’s not many options for larger size cable above 2.5mm.

I’ve done 3x 2.5mm in one of the Wago boxes and it was a little tight. Good kit just needs a little bit more flexibility.

We need those Line black egg things to be manufactured again.

 

[Moley]

I would be tempted to solder, double heat shrink each joint, another shrink over the two together and then put in suitable box.

 

[cliffed]

If the cable is there,then extend it with appropriate connection box.
It’s really no different using a cooker outlet connection to cooker.

 

[Andy78]

This is the problem with manufacturers, there’s not many options for larger size cable above 2.5mm.

I’ve done 3x 2.5mm in one of the Wago boxes and it was a little tight. Good kit just needs a little bit more flexibility.

We need those Line black egg things to be manufactured again.

Really miss the Line eggs. I still have a couple rattling about somewhere.

 

[Strima]

Really miss the Line eggs. I still have a couple rattling about somewhere.

I have a stash somewhere, buggered if I can remember where though.

 

[ipf]

Will that still be considered MF ipf? like the idea, but just questioning the vaugeries of the rules.

That's the thing, Pete, stupid, vague rules. I'd feel much better with something solid, with good connections and wouldn't have any problems. eg. I still use 20amp JB's for recessed fittings....remove the fitting for access.....why not if you're working on it?

 

[Nebu1a]

I agree that the 20 amp junction boxes are accessible. However they have no cable restraint and are meant to be fixed in place.