Joining existing cooker cable

[clematis432]

Hi, neighbour has asked me if I would move his cooker control switch for him. Since new position of it is further away,this would require joining existing cable via JB or, as is preferable, running a new cable. Running a new cable is a fairly big job,so do the regs allow a JB to be used in this case. Cable is twin and earth 6mm. Thanks

 

[freddo]

I remember them now! Used to see them advertised, but have never used one. I still prefer the 60A junction box though. MK do a nice 30A junction box that will accept 4x 6.0mm cables. Neither are MF though.

 

[davesparks]

Will that still be considered MF ipf? like the idea, but just questioning the vaugeries of the rules.

No, but a crimped connection doesn't require an MF enclosure, it is one of the alter alternatives for an inaccessible connection.
If I remember correctly the options are:
MF joint
Crimped connection
Soldered connection
Resin encapsulated connection

 

[sheppertonspark]

Use Ashley J803 0r 804. Bin the connectors inside and replace with insulated through crimps. Complies with regs. Maintenence free, cables secured against strain at their terminations, non flame propogating enclosure. However I only use this method if it's really hard to rewire. Rewire is the safest option. If the neighbour has won the lottery you could fit an AFFD and sleep soundly LOL

 

[Midwest]

Use Ashley J803 0r 804. Bin the connectors inside and replace with insulated through crimps. Complies with regs. Maintenence free, cables secured against strain at their terminations, non flame propogating enclosure.

Not so sure about that, altering a manufactured product to suit.

Reg 526.3 (vi) Equipment complying with BS5733, for a maintenance free accessory & marked with the 'MF' symbol & installed in accordance with the manufactures instructions.

Connexbox only give their Wagobox an MF status, when using their Wago 222 and 773 connectors.

Altering the Ashley box, as suggested, would not keep its MF status, IMO.

 

[Andy78]

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[Pete999]

So I could do a solder/crimp join without a JB ( it would be underfloor)

Will it be accessible, will it be MF?

 

[EbolaSideRoom]

I’d go with
1) re-wire circuit as 1st choice.
2) use 60 amp JB (see above) and ensure it is in accessible location
3) there is no third thing.

 

[a-z electrics]

They are only rated for MF when used within their Wagobox enclosures, a type tested thing I think.
You're never getting 2 x 6mm twins in one of those boxes though.

Yes they do a bigger size of box bow..

 

[a-z electrics]

Now even..

 

[sweet212]

Wagobox XLA is rated to 41Amps.
They also make connectors for up to 6mm cable (773 series) and are also rated up to 41Amps.

I have used the connectors a few of times now.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/wagobox-xla-junction-box/412ft#product_additional_details_container

 

[happysteve]

2x 6mm goes fine into a regular Wagobox (use 2x 773-173 + 1x 773-102).

 

[Markyd]

Wago do 6mm connectors but I dont think 2x 6mm cables will fit into a wagobox. Crimp or solder connections.

What about a wiska box

 

[Markyd]

Thought that, I could use a metal 150mm x 150mm JB with stuffing glands then ?

What about a wiska box