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Whats with the extremely poor standard of sparky work these days?

Sorry but I really feel as if the craftmanship of an electrician has been sadly lost

The company I work for has around 30 sparks of which 23 or so are completely useless, maybe 4 are decent and 2 or 3 spot on

It just seems that people dont give a damn as long as what they are installing works, bugger the regs, testing results are fabricated rarely see a bit of containment installed properly do people really not take their jobs seriously or uis it just me?
 
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I left my 1st year apprentice (age 18) and the 3rd year guy (age 35) to tidy a job that I had done a new consumer unit in
They had to run a water bond and check some sockets (all dead working)
The 3 rd year guy put on a socket to a pattress and managed to break the back box - he hadn't stripped the twin and earth sheath back far enough.
The young one fixed it and I arrived back 10 mins later to find the 35 year old doin exactly the same thing again on another box.

I didn't know about the first one at this stage and pulled him up on his schoolboy error.
He looked really depressed and I get the feeling he isn't really interested in becoming a sparks

I asked him to do a wiring diagram of a job we were at last week. Gave him the spec (position of switches, cable routes - all bar the connections).
He had 3 attempts and got it wrong, after each attempt I explained what he had done wrong, he said he understood and obviously didn't

This annoyed me more- I don't mind if someone doesn't understand- but I mind if they try and bluff it

you sound like a great employer mate, one that gives a dam.
 
I dont think schools are allowed anymore to teach what most of us could do as kids the CDT class,hammers,drills etc,ruled by brussels,im british and dont want nothing to do with them,can we have OUR country back,rule brittania

When looking round the local secondary schools for my son 12 years ago we got to the workshops and I made a comment about the old Boxford lathes and how it took me back to my days at school the teacher who overheard the comment said unfortunately they don't get used these days because of health and safety and also the lack of respect today's pupils have for the dangers in using the equipment

More on the 3 year apprentice

I left my 1st year apprentice (age 18) and the 3rd year guy (age 35) to tidy a job that I had done a new consumer unit in
They had to run a water bond and check some sockets (all dead working)
The 3 rd year guy put on a socket to a pattress and managed to break the back box - he hadn't stripped the twin and earth sheath back far enough.
The young one fixed it and I arrived back 10 mins later to find the 35 year old doin exactly the same thing again on another box.

I didn't know about the first one at this stage and pulled him up on his schoolboy error.
He looked really depressed and I get the feeling he isn't really interested in becoming a sparks

I asked him to do a wiring diagram of a job we were at last week. Gave him the spec (position of switches, cable routes - all bar the connections).
He had 3 attempts and got it wrong, after each attempt I explained what he had done wrong, he said he understood and obviously didn't

This annoyed me more- I don't mind if someone doesn't understand- but I mind if they try and bluff it

There are too many Billy Bluffs out there that don't listen because they know it all and know best it, I think that is why apprentice training died too many cocky 16 year olds with no respect for those teaching them the trade and no reasoning as to why they didn't start on full money as they could do it
 

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