Lighting circuit taken off ring main somewhere

[Ross1]

evening guys, ive come across lighting in one room of domestic premises that has been supplied from the ring main at some point. the cable coming from the ring is 1,5mm which goes through the switch then on to the 2 x 12V down lights. This is on an EICR I`m doing. There is no chance at all of accessing under the floor boards as there is very expensive oak flooring down every where. I believe that from memory you can use a switched fused spur for functional switching. I could then put in a 5A fuse and the load side of the cable will be protected. My concern though is the piece of 1,5mm from ring to switch? your thoughts on this would be welcome. I see this as no different to taking a spur off the ring for an extra socket etc, or am I forgetting some thing?

 

[spark 68]

So electricians that taught me this trade,don't know what their talking about!! (1979) some are proberly not with us any more, and proberly before you was born!!. Close this ****in thread!!

Why ?,

don't you understand it ?

We could have had crap electricians in 1979 who didn't understand it then either lol.

 

[Zeus]

It would appear so and this chap was taught by them!

 

[Ross1]

youre all missing the point !
the OP declared this to be an eicr , therefore the only discussion should about the coding if any.
and IMO its probably a C2 - but a 2 minute fix with a switched fused spur.

Exactly what I have done Biff

 

[richy3333]

Why ?,

don't you understand it ?

We could have had crap electricians in 1979 who didn't understand it then either lol.

Although, wouldn't have had forums then, or computers, or people banging on about Part P, or people banging on about Electrical Trainee, or Aids, or the Olympics in London, or robots. But wine was cheaper

 

[GMES]

So electricians that taught me this trade,don't know what their talking about!! (1979) some are proberly not with us any more, and proberly before you was born!!. Close this ****in thread!!

It doesn't matter who was born when or who taught who, the point is that if you think that you need to rip out a 1.5mm cable to protect it from some magical fault between fcu and the ring then we've all got bigger problems than I thought oh and don't forget to pick your dummy up :53:

 

[driverman]

hi D Skelton.....off topic. I posted this on your thread other day but thread seems to be lost. Yoozybox - Plasterguards As I said when posted. I've never used them, but the local Councils do round here

 

[spark 68]

Although, wouldn't have had forums then, or computers, or people banging on about Part P, or people banging on about Electrical Trainee, or Aids, or the Olympics in London, or robots. But wine was cheaper

And we had Raleigh Choppers and soda streams and the back end of punk rock lol , what's not to like

 

[GMES]

And we had Raleigh Choppers and soda streams and the back end of punk rock lol , what's not to like

Raleigh choppers and grifters and marathons not bloody snickers

 

[GLENNSPARK]

So electricians that taught me this trade,don't know what their talking about!! (1979) some are proberly not with us any more, and proberly before you was born!!. Close this ****in thread!!

lol...
grow up Dave....lol....lol..

 

[Guest55]

And we had Raleigh Choppers and soda streams and the back end of punk rock lol , what's not to like

ah , the 80's ........
depeche mode haircuts and mobile phones the size of a breeze block.
life was so awesome back then lol.

 

[spark 68]

I was about in the 70's (and the 60's) lol, just not a practicing electrician then.

Mind the 70's décor was crap, and 80's womens big hair lol

 

[Guest55]

i even remember who shot J.R. Ewing !!!

it was his brother cliff , the dirty bast*rd.

:-D

 

[D Skelton]

hi D Skelton.....off topic. I posted this on your thread other day but thread seems to be lost. Yoozybox - Plasterguards As I said when posted. I've never used them, but the local Councils do round here

Thanks for that, I shall have to take a look

 

[electrician4u]

what about when you spur of the ring to an additional point as allowed. that 2.5mm is also under rated for the 32A MCB.

good point

 

[markc123]

Put it this way, if I carried out a job whereby I fed a FCU with 1.5mm from a ring final and some muppet came arond telling the customer it's bad practice and against regulation blah blah blah... That is SLANDER! Plain and simple! If you then proceeded to charge the customer to replace it that is obtaining money by deception, a criminal offence!

Any of you idiots out there that continue to propagate this myth that somehow the 1.5mm cable isn't protected are talking out of your rear end. I would suggest that you start by picking up a bloody regs book!!!

Not wanting to start an argument again...but if you look in the arms, somewhere in the last couple of days some ----- did that too me.

Coded it a C3 on report(t'was 1.0mm feeding a socket method c from a 13a FCU), and got told it was a C2 by the spark 'rectifying' works...

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