Lights in porch soffit

[telectrix]

my gob is IP00 nat the moment to allow the ingress of newcastle brown

 

[Big n Daft]

Gentlemen,
Now for my twopenn'eth.
I'm a bit long in the tooth and may be wrong. In my day we had the equipotential bonding area i.e the house. Owt connected to the building fabric was within this area and this is what the regs are driving at, a socket has to have rcd protection wherever it is. If a device is outside tis only common sense for it to be IP rated depending on its exposure to the elements.
Wether or not its notifiable? Best see if venus is correctly aligned with mars.

 

[nickblake]

my gob is IP00 nat the moment to allow the ingress of newcastle brown

Like it,lol, not had a newcie brown for years , i cant belive some of the posts at the begging of this thread , back you all the way Duram , intresting posts i have to admit lol

 

[rocker]

Innit! We'll have batten holders in carports next. Oh it's got a roof on it.

IP44 bulkhead 2.56 from elecfix, people. No excuses.

 

[nickblake]

Innit! We'll have batten holders in carports next. Oh it's got a roof on it.

IP44 bulkhead 2.56 from elecfix, people. No excuses.

mate i cant agree more , batton holder outside rewireable fuses = electricution ,there are to many people getting hurt and even killed with dodgy outside lighting

 

[mickys86]

mate i cant agree more , batton holder outside rewireable fuses = electricution ,there are to many people getting hurt and even killed with dodgy outside lighting

Dodgy outside lighting..... I'd rather go with dodgy sparkys who jump in to things without knowing what they are doing. I am in my second year of college and I'm lucky enough to have an electrician to go out and work with and learn the trade. So many people in my college who are nearly qualified ( that I wouldn't trust to wire a plug ) are going to be able to go out and work on Joe publics house. It's scary to think what could happen

 

[DurhamSparky]

after another discussion with Elecsa tech support on this matter (the love me) his advice was if its outside IP it and also if your not sure about notifying just do it...! for the sake of 1.50 just do it... that way your --- is covered and no comes backs!

 

[Antman]

Haha at betenholders open to the elements....Tool!

 

[rocker]

Haha at betenholders open to the elements....Tool!

Eh????

 

[ezzzekiel]

non notifiable, no rcd required and a minor works

 

[mickys86]

non notifiable, no rcd required and a minor works

No rcd??

 

[Big n Daft]

after another discussion with Elecsa tech support on this matter (the love me) his advice was if its outside IP it and also if your not sure about notifying just do it...! for the sake of 1.50 just do it... that way your --- is covered and no comes backs!

Yayhayhay and alls rosey in the garden of soffit lighting.
Hope the job goes ok.

 

[telectrix]

ok, hypothetical situation. existing lighting circiut with cables buried in walls, no RCD ( installed pre-17th ). you are adding soffit lights to this circiut. as the cabling you install is in the loft and above the soffit, no rcd is required. but... because yoiu are altering the xisting circuit, should you then fit RCD to the whole circuit to make it comply with 522.6.6?

 

[truckster]

Yes unless you can ensure that the new cable is more than 50mm from any surface which may or may not be the case. i.e laying on the plaster board ceiling

 

[telectrix]

not quite my point, truckster. the point being, if your new cable is surface and not requiring rcd, because you have altered the existing curcuit whose existing cable would require rcd as per 522.6.6, would you rcd the circuit.?