My "Line/Wago" Products experience...

LineProducts · Mar 4, 2013

keniff said:
I have found wago levers to have a better grip than line, but the pushfits seem all the same

We have done some experiments to try get to the bottom of this. Have found that sometimes either will win a pull out test. However, if its installed correctly (properly inserted and lever in the closed position) LINE will comfortably exceed the pull out requirements of BS 60998.

Providing the cables are properly secured (by an appropriate enclosure or stapled) it is unlikely that an installation will require a pull our force in excess of BS60998.

LineProducts · Mar 4, 2013

brman said:
I think if you compare the connectors like for like they are pretty much the same rating. i.e. lever type 32A, push in 0.75mm2 to 2.5mm2 =20/24A. There appear to be a few push in type with higher current ratings - line show some 0.75-4mm2 32A ones. I have some Wago 2.5 to 6mm2 which are 41A if I remember correctly.
Just buy the ones that meet your needs.

btw. if you want to use them maintenance free I believe they need derating. there is a table inside the lid of the wagoboxes which appears to show both 773 push fit and 222 lever type at 20A/250V.

LINE offer push in connectors in 24, 32 and 41A. There are varying opinions on what the connector requirements for a ring are. My personal view is that on a spur it is possible for a load to reach 26A in normal conditions, higher in fault before fuses will melt. Total aggregate current running through the connector will therefore be closer to circuit rating.

keniff · Mar 4, 2013

LineProducts said:
We have done some experiments to try get to the bottom of this. Have found that sometimes either will win a pull out test. However, if its installed correctly (properly inserted and lever in the closed position) LINE will comfortably exceed the pull out requirements of BS 60998.

Providing the cables are properly secured (by an appropriate enclosure or stapled) it is unlikely that an installation will require a pull our force in excess of BS60998.

Maybe I just had a bad batch, alot of them were cracked and levers were snapping the connector apart when opened, it was about 20 percent of the batch I ordered ended up using wagos since, maybe I should have not been so hasty to move over to wago

LineProducts · Mar 4, 2013

keniff said:
Maybe I just had a bad batch, alot of them were cracked and levers were snapping the connector apart when opened, it was about 20 percent of the batch I ordered ended up using wagos since, maybe I should have not been so hasty to move over to wago

We did have one batch that had some tooling teething problems (last year around June)- a few may have slipped through - plastic was slightly misaligned but electrical integrity ok. PM me your contact details and I'll send you some of the latest product.

Megavolt · Mar 5, 2013

I got one of the carry case full of line connectors in jan nearly empty now. Love them. And not one issue. Line do you do a refill for it.

LineProducts · Mar 5, 2013

Elrick said:
I got one of the carry case full of line connectors in jan nearly empty now. Love them. And not one issue. Line do you do a refill for it.

Thanks for the feedback. Good to hear!

To refill just "pick and mix" on FORUMSHOP

Mark_Burgess · Mar 5, 2013

LineProducts said:
We did have one batch that had some tooling teething problems (last year around June)- a few may have slipped through - plastic was slightly misaligned but electrical integrity ok. PM me your contact details and I'll send you some of the latest product.

Maybe thats related to the duffers I got from you, I must get round to sending them back to you sometime.

LineProducts · Mar 5, 2013

Mark_Burgess said:
Maybe thats related to the duffers I got from you, I must get round to sending them back to you sometime.

Please send any that gave problems. We are committed to providing products of the highest quality! As with all manufacturing processes there are occasional rogues that get through (electrical properties not compromised) which caught us out middle of last year.

We will gladly replace!

Tooling has been upgraded and last few batches have been great (with no manufacturing problems since oct last year).

Heisenberg · Mar 18, 2013

I don't know if anyone has asked this before, but how on earth are you allowed to make something that is obviously so similar to the Wagos, and not have them come after you for breach of IP? Didn't Wago patent any of their designs?

Cheers

fog · Mar 18, 2013

Hi been using line products for 18 months now superb products easy fast and great for a number of jobs.

Sintra · Mar 18, 2013

Just started using line this month and no problems at all.

specs · Apr 13, 2013

put an order into Line a few days back, they sent me a couple of enclosures FOC i used them on a job yesterday (down lighters) coudn't believe how fast they were to fit . Just ordered 50 more.Hopefully they will arrive soon and save me from having to use the chocboxes. Excellent timesaving product. I have also used wago boxes but found them a bit of a fiddle to use ie closing the lid when cables and connectors are inserted. Re connectors, i now have both types and i cannot fault either make.

Badged01 · Apr 15, 2013

Positive feedback when its due.

Used the new 32A in-line connectors when extending circuits on a consumer unit change and was impressed. Quick, simple (in-line as the name suggests!) and a good solid connection straight away. So much less hassle than trying to crimp solid cores and much less bulky than the lever connectors.

My way forward in future ........