Neutrals at switches

[Guest 004]

Went to a job today, twin and earth, and it had been wired 2 plate, which of course meant that all the switches had the neutral taken to them.

WTF, if I had done that in my apprenticeship I would have been kicked off site.

Is this how things are done now, god I hope not.

 

[IQ Electrical]

a lot of people were against penecillin when first introduced

I'm firmly against penicillin in switch boxes.

 

[Phil]

I'm firmly against penicillin in switch boxes.

so am i at nearly 8 quid a perscription

 

[davelerave]

don't work in UK -but all dom work i do is done that way

you won't do it for laziness anyhow as it's more copper and work

 

[peterb2428]

so am i at nearly 8 quid a perscription

Me too

 

[Electricalserv]

Ive just finished my apprenticeship. The boss taught me too do it this way as he said it was easier than risking falling off a ladder 6ft up, i did question whether it was bad practice, he said no. I find myself doing the final connections at the switch is better than leaving a junction box up above, where it could then be a pain in the --- for the next bloke coming in?

Risk falling of a ladder what about takeing a Zs reading....Hold on lets just do the calculation Zs= Ze + R1 + R2 like the Niceic say to do.

I've never seen this and never ever been taught to this. Il also never teach anyone to do it.

 

[nickblake]

so am i at nearly 8 quid a perscription

£8.00 .................Free i wales

as for switch fed , untill lighting manufacturers stop putting idiotic connectors in there light fittings then i will switch feed , but only in wall lights etc where there is a risk of multiple cables being damaged by heat or crushed by the fitting , i way prefer and will always do loop in and out at the ceilings and JB where nessesary

 

[Guest 004]

ah another controversial thread started by yours truly, lol.

and on another note, who would use a fuseboard as a wireway?

 

[Guest 004]

£8.00 .................Free i wales

as for switch fed , untill lighting manufacturers stop putting idiotic connectors in there light fittings then i will switch feed , but only in wall lights etc where there is a risk of multiple cables being damaged by heat or crushed by the fitting , i way prefer and will always do loop in and out at the ceilings and JB where nessesary

agreed ))

 

[rmc86uk]

I rarely do any domestic but if I do the odd one then its loop feed at switches and loop neutrals at the the lights in single core PVC sheathed cable!

The firm I started out with used to use double pole light switches i.e looping a l + n at the switches then firing off a sw + n up to the fitting. I was taught that as long as they were double pole switches then it was ok but i haven't seen this method used since I finished working for them.



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[londonlec]

I find it hard to beleive that 'electricians' haven't seen this wiring method. Maybe they are armchair experts?

 

[aptsys]

I find it hard to beleive that 'electricians' haven't seen this wiring method. Maybe they are armchair experts?

Indeed. Very odd.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

86 posts and still nobody has said why it is bad practice??....Come on E54? ,MrEnigma? etc......What is the electrical reason why a N joint shouldnt be in a switch box?

 

[gnselectricals]

Nothing wrong with neutrals in the switch box, I generally prefer it due to amounts of spots and fancy light fitting that I'm installing. Easier & safer to wire at ground level and no need to jb in inaccessible positions at the light fitting

 

[peterb2428]

86 posts and still nobody has said why it is bad practice??....Come on E54? ,MrEnigma? etc......What is the electrical reason why a N joint shouldnt be in a switch box?

Perhaps there isnt any??????????

 

[nickblake]

Seen it loads of times pain in the butt if you need to add to the circuit you end up with a big star circuit tapped off jb's