No Paperwork For New Consumer Unit Installation

[Midwest]

Don't thank me, it twos HandySparks.

 

[Trimglafix]

Don't thank me, it twos HandySparks.

Yes, sorry, was reading most recent post first, then saw others after replying. None the less, the link you supplied was useful.

Thanks HandySparks.

 

[HandySparks]

Yes, sorry, was reading most recent post first, then saw others after replying. None the less, the link you supplied was useful.

Thanks HandySparks.

And I was just replying to Murdoch.

 

[richy3333]

Putting to one side the issue of whether the installer is a shark or not for one moment I think it is difficult to comment on whether the job is over priced or not. Many considerations come into play when pricing a job, not just labour and materials. An example from an industry point might be where you dont really want the work (for some reason) and price high, so at least then if you have to do the job you feel adequately compensated. I know its not the same here but I've added to the price before just because I've had to move 3 ton of furniture before I could even start doing any electrical work. I've also priced high because the customer has previously been a very late payer. (I appreciate none of this applies here). At the end of the day its an open market and people can price what they wish and the customers can choose to buy or not?

If I was the OP I'd write to the 'electrician' giving them 7 days to supply the EIC and if it isn't supplied go to Trading Standards and let them investigate. Is LABC certificate (Part P notification) also required in England?

 

[uksparks]

I've just recently got a job, I didn't want to do it so intentionally doubled the labour to £1200 and they have turned round and said they want it... I did tell them to get other quotes.

 

[Midwest]

If I was the OP I'd write to the 'electrician' giving them 7 days to supply the EIC and if it isn't supplied go to Trading Standards and let them investigate. Is LABC certificate (Part P notification) also required in England?

We haven't any evidence, that this installer has done anything wrong as yet, apart from not supplying an EIC. So not sure TS would do anything? Notification to LABC would be required, but that's the responsibility of the house owner. Although if the installer is in a scheme, the process is easier.

 

[Midwest]

I've just recently got a job, I didn't want to do it so intentionally doubled the labour to £1200 and they have turned round and said they want it... I did tell them to get other quotes.

I suppose that's the problem with that option, and you could get labelled like this installer. Perhaps, another excuses would be better?

 

[richy3333]

I suppose that's the problem with that option, and you could get labelled like this installer. Perhaps, another excuses would be better?

Aren't we all in business to make money? Isn't UK's scenario called commercial considerations. Hes not saying that he is trying to take advantage of a sick/frail/old person

 

[richy3333]

We haven't any evidence, that this installer has done anything wrong as yet, apart from not supplying an EIC. So not sure TS would do anything? Notification to LABC would be required, but that's the responsibility of the house owner. Although if the installer is in a scheme, the process is easier.

Well the original complaint/question was the lack of an EIC so some might argue he hasn't proved his work safe - as already suggested so there could be a valid compliant for TS to hear?

 

[shanky887614]

I'm so confused about this thread! what is all that blue tape? Surely not concealing joins in cables? Can you post a better picture of the meter cupboard?

Also did the installer give an invoice/receipt for this mess?

i always tape over through crimps when im happy with the joint


give the guy a ring, he might have all the results etc but hasnt written up the paperwork yet.

the firm i did my time with dont hand certs to the clients for months sometimes after completion they wait till they have a stack that needs doing and then spend a day in the office to do them.


if you cant get through to him, ring his membership helpline it will probably be niceic or other.

they will try to get them to hand a cert in for you, its in there best interest

 

[HandySparks]

i always tape over through crimps when im happy with the joint

Do you think that a joint in an accessible cable made by crimping and wrapping tape over the top constitutes a good, or even adequate, job?

... ring his membership helpline it will probably be niceic or other....

He doesn't appear to be registered with a 'scheme':

Thanks. That was a useful link - Not surprisingly neither their address (as listed on their website) or company name show up.

 

[shanky887614]

Do you think that a joint in an accessible cable made by crimping and wrapping tape over the top constitutes a good, or even adequate, job?




He doesn't appear to be registered with a 'scheme':

not if it isnt in an enclosure the joint should be contained really, an adaptable box isnt expensive.

if he isnt member of a scheme then he should have informed you that building control need notifying before job is carrird out.

usually the electrician does this on the clients behalf unless there a cowboy, it is a couple hundred pounds usually to do it

so its actually cheaper to be part of a scheme if you do more than 2 notifiable jobs a year

 

[Midwest]

Aren't we all in business to make money? Isn't UK's scenario called commercial considerations. Hes not saying that he is trying to take advantage of a sick/frail/old person

Wasn't suggesting Uksparks was. What I was suggesting, is overcharging someone for a job you don't want, but get, can leave you open to suggestions that you're expensive and taking liberties, the same as bee suggested of this installer in this thread.

 

[Midwest]

Well the original complaint/question was the lack of an EIC so some might argue he hasn't proved his work safe - as already suggested so there could be a valid compliant for TS to hear?

Think TS are a bit too busy to look at this one, just because of a missing EIC which might turn up anyway. The OP said he didn't have concerns about the quality of work, or the cost for that matter. Been a week though now, no sign of EIC?

 

[Trimglafix]

Quick update:
Something has been received from the electrician by email. As soon as I get to see it I will update again. A request has also been made for the original printed certificate.
With regards the price: I am now confident that he hasn't taken advantage of my mothers age; he is just expensive.
I came to this conclusion by asking a female friend to request a quote for the same job. The price quoted over the 'phone was £600. The caller was also much younger than my mother which should have come across over the 'phone.
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