Notifiable works.

[jones68]

I am building a small timber frame extension for a client and am planning to wire it myself , I have a part P domestic installers qualification with the 17th C&G. I want to check whether this is notifiable work. As the plan is to extend the existing ring final circuit and lighting circuit only and not add a new circuit my understanding is that it`s not notifiable and can be covered by a minor works certificate ? Any advice much appreciated.

 

[Octopus]

Starting out own scheme would certainly be a option, but I imagine it would need some serious financial backing, I know think someone who is else where on the WWW said a whole ago they looked into it. Could be worth contacting them to see what they managed to find out.

To start a new scheme I think it would need the consent of the DCLG - and I think the current "crop" of businesses all had to apply in the same way

 

[Silly Sausage]

Starting out own scheme would certainly be a option, but I imagine it would need some serious financial backing, I know think someone who is else where on the WWW said a whole ago they looked into it. Could be worth contacting them to see what they managed to find out.

It already exists....BSI

 

[trev]

Your still feeding a leech doing that thought Trev.

Also who would want the responsibility of several hundred sparks work on their head? Especially after the recent case of that EICR that was done, where later sadly a young mother lost her life due to a screw I'm a cable that wasn't noticed? I know that's not a installation issue but the same thing could still happen?

Yeah the leech is still being fed but it's being fed a lot less than it is now mate. I thought about the Emma Shaw case and that's the drawback, one which I can't at present think of a way round.

 

[trev]

Starting out own scheme would certainly be a option, but I imagine it would need some serious financial backing, I know think someone who is else where on the WWW said a whole ago they looked into it. Could be worth contacting them to see what they managed to find out.

I looked into it a while back, the process is quite complicated and as has been said, needs the permission of DCLG and they only open up for new applicant scheme operators once in a blue moon

 

[jaypp]

I looked into it a while back, the process is quite complicated and as has been said, needs the permission of DCLG and they only open up for new applicant scheme operators once in a blue moon

If you gather the evidence along with enough electricians backing your safety concerns for work covered by existing organisations, as well as a plan for a new organisation, would they allow an application then do you think?

 

[Plonker 3]

I looked into it a while back, the process is quite complicated and as has been said, needs the permission of DCLG and they only open up for new applicant scheme operators once in a blue moon

But if the info is available to start one then surely at least getting the wheels rolling showing the other scams that people are taking it seriously and doing it not for profit will maybe wake them up an kick them up the backside

 

[trev]

If you gather the evidence along with enough electricians backing your safety concerns for work covered by existing organisations, as well as a plan for a new organisation, would they allow an application then do you think?

But if the info is available to start one then surely at least getting the wheels rolling showing the other scams that people are taking it seriously and doing it not for profit will maybe wake them up an kick them up the backside

Both great points. Let me think about them overnight lads.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

But if the info is available to start one then surely at least getting the wheels rolling showing the other scams that people are taking it seriously and doing it not for profit will maybe wake them up an kick them up the backside

the only thing that will wake up the scams Dillon is to throw them down the well...

 

[7029 dave]

IMO its gone too far now, you have to spend £'s to do days work, feel sorry for you all.!!

 

[Plonker 3]

the only thing that will wake up the scams Dillon is to throw them down the well...

We all know that, but sometimes you have to play the game to get what you want before causing a massive downfall.

 

[trev]

IMO its gone too far now, you have to spend £'s to do days work, feel sorry for you all.!!

So we sit back and continue to let it all go to hell in a handcart?
A lot of us aren't prepared to do that mate.

 

[7029 dave]

So we sit back and continue to let it all go to hell in a handcart?
A lot of us aren't prepared to do that mate.

Trevor, don't blame you but what the hell can you all do about it.? !!!

 

[trev]

Trevor, don't blame you but what the hell can you all do about it.? !!!

Without the lifeblood of the almighty £ all businesses fail mate. Losses will kill a business slowly like a long term debilitating illness, bad cash flow will kill them quickly.
Without the leeches the trade can be put back in our hands. As I've said many times, the situation we have presently exists because we have allowed it to

 

[7029 dave]

Without the lifeblood of the almighty £ all businesses fail mate. Losses will kill a business slowly like a long term debilitating illness, bad cash flow will kill them quickly.
Without the leeches the trade can be put back in our hands. As I've said many times, the situation we have presently exists because we have allowed it to

Am I right in saying this all come about because some mp's relation got killed in 2004 ish ( part p etc)was born, it was an done deal passed through parliament how could you stop that.? That's only my take on it, or have I got this wrong.

 

[trev]

Am I right in saying this all come about because some mp's relation got killed in 2004 ish ( part p etc)was born, it was an done deal passed through parliament how could you stop that.? That's only my take on it, or have I got this wrong.

Part P is here to stay, I make no mistake about that. The best anyone can hope for is some sort of amendment to it. What I, and many others, object to is the way the trade is being steered by the very organisations that were supposed to be upholding standards.
It's them we want rid of and there's only one way to do that and that is to drive them out of business.