old rewireables..

[CSP2012]

Am I right in thinking that I can carry out a eicr on an old rewireable fuseboard? No install so technically I don't need RCD protection on anything...? I'd prefer to change it to a 17th edition board but customer wants to keep costs at an all time low.
Any thoughts welcome.
Chris

 

[m1ck_b87]

Definitely a code 2. The chance of plugging an outdoor appliance into the socket in this day and age is high, always best to cover your arse.

 

[Plonker 3]

Why does something overnight go from perfectly safe too potentially dangerous?

Sorry unless I missed it. This question I asked yesterday wasn't answered. Anyone who thinks its a code 2 please care to explain there reason of thought about this then?

 

[Edd]

Sorry unless I missed it. This question I asked yesterday wasn't answered. Anyone who thinks its a code 2 please care to explain there reason of thought about this then?

Its not overnight, its 10 years between tests... things move forward

EDIT: Ohh and dont forget 10-15 years ago people were bonding crital window frames! and anything metal

 

[Rockingit]

You cannot predict the future, you cannot idiot-proof every situation nor should we. An inspection is 'as presented' - that is CURRENT tense, not future.

There is the potential that I might burst into song at any moment - does that mean I need to dash next door and supply the neighbours with ear plugs just in case I do??

 

[Edd]

You cannot predict the future, you cannot idiot-proof every situation nor should we. An inspection is 'as presented' - that is CURRENT tense, not future.

There is the potential that I might burst into song at any moment - does that mean I need to dash next door and supply the neighbours with ear plugs just in case I do??

and in the future we may well have battery powered mowers but lets not think about that. at the moment most items and tools used outside are 230v mains electrical. where 40 years ago most things were 2 stroke petrol, and things were classed as electricaly safe..

 

[Redvanman]

40 years ago we didnt have electric lawn mowers, presure washers etc but we DO TODAY!! lets move with the times people, other wise we will still be lighting our rooms with coal gas... of which i bet the "gas safe" people of today dont preach well it was ok at the time!!!!!

If theres the potential of a electrical item being used outside the equipotential zone then that person needs protecting and they dont give a sh it if it was safe 40 years ago, they didnt have a electric lawn mower 40 years ago... but they do today... C2 if theres the potential of equipment being used outside.. If upstairs in a block of flats then C3.

Its your name on the cert as miss smith is found laying in the grass holding the cut flex of the lawn mower that she just cut... Cover your arse..

Hallelujah I thought I was the only one that thought this way. Phew panic over

 

[Plonker 3]

Its not overnight, its 10 years between tests... things move forward

EDIT: Ohh and dont forget 10-15 years ago people were bonding crital window frames! and anything metal

Erm yes it did happen overnight, one day we were working to 16th edition regs which didn't say as much about RCD protecting sockets, the next day it was the all singing all dancing 17th edition.

Which also overlapped one another, so you could well have been installing to 16th edition while the spark next work did it to 17th.

 

[stuartcourt]

when 17th came out you could not even get dual board

 

[Redvanman]

Erm yes it did happen overnight, one day we were working to 16th edition regs which didn't say as much about RCD protecting sockets, the next day it was the all singing all dancing 17th edition.

Pretty sure sockets had to be protected by rcd,s in the 16th edition regs I remember split boards

 

[Mike66]

I agree 100% c2. Got to test to todays standard. What code for electric shower with no RCD?

 

[Edd]

Erm yes it did happen overnight, one day we were working to 16th edition regs which didn't say as much about RCD protecting sockets, the next day it was the all singing all dancing 17th edition.

Which also overlapped one another, so you could well have been installing to 16th edition while the spark next work did it to 17th.

So its now down to you to deside at what point you think somthing needs upgrading to meet modern electrical regulations and consumption, because miss smith aint got the 2 stroke petrol lawn mower anymore! that went bang 10 years ago...... rember its your name on the cert not mine! and its you that WILL be in the fireing line....

 

[Octopus]

time to get my coat.

C3.

 

[Plonker 3]

Erm yes it did happen overnight, one day we were working to 16th edition regs which didn't say as much about RCD protecting sockets, the next day it was the all singing all dancing 17th edition.

Pretty sure sockets had to be protected by rcd,s in the 16th edition regs I remember split boards

Not at first they didn't, but slowly they said outdoor skts had to be.then ground floor. Or at least something along them lines.

Still no one can say way though can they?

 

[Redvanman]

Way...

 

[Plonker 3]

So its now down to you to deside at what point you think somthing needs upgrading to meet modern electrical regulations and consumption, because miss smith aint got the 2 stroke petrol lawn mower anymore! that went bang 10 years ago...... rember its your name on the cert not mine! and its you that WILL be in the fireing line....

No but this the same house that was built 50 years ago before all the mod cons came along like sky, DVDs games console. Toasters kettles microwaves. Hardly any sockets in the house but lots of 4 was adapters plugged in around the house.

Is this any different?