Phasing nightmare

[Michael Smith]

No, it will require 2MW for the motor in your scenario but only generating 1.8MW at the output.

You cannot get more power out than you put in!

you have just said what i said earlier; it costs the same as you can generate :/ you want 000's of KW you need to put 000's of KW into it

meaning NO point having them at all..... its more of a converter not a generator

 

[RogertheBodger]

What happened to him ..... have you heard from him lately?

We will be when he catches this thread.

Seriously boys - it could be the answer, main generators at power stations supplying themselves, no more need for coal or oil, nuclear power is a distant memory, and we can avoid having to go to Hamster power!

 

[Adam W]

Is there any good reason why you can't just buy your electricity off the grid like everybody else does?
What some people do is put solar panels on the roof to generate a bit of their own electricity. When it's really sunny and they're not using much of it they can sell it back to the grid, and it's a lot quieter than having a hulking great big generator in the garage.

 

[Michael Smith]

No, it will require 2MW for the motor in your scenario but only generating 1.8MW at the output.

You cannot get more power out than you put in!

what about through gears...... on a bicycle you use less energy to go the same speed up the hill if in a lower gear (3rd instead of 6th) whereas you would use more energy if you stayed in the same gear uphill and the harder you'll need to work right..... so if the motor only needs to work 1/32 of what it used to; then in theory itll demand less power too

or am i wrong again?

 

[HandySparks]

what about through gears...... on a bicycle you use less energy to go the same speed up the hill if in a lower gear (3rd instead of 6th) whereas you would use more energy if you stayed in the same gear uphill and the harder you'll need to work right..... so if the motor only needs to work 1/32 of what it used to; then in theory itll demand less power too

or am i wrong again?

Do you have any technical education at all? Perhaps a physics O-level???

If not, we're going to struggle to convince you that you're barking up the wrong tree.

 

[snowhead]

or am i wrong again?

To save any future replies on the subject.
Yes you're wrong on this and everything else on the subject you ask in the future.

If you have any sense at all think about what you are saying then ask yourself why isn't the rest of the World doing the same regards your idea of Free generation of electricity.

What you're trying to achieve is exactly the same as drinking a bottle of milk and it's always full, you never have to go and buy any.

 

[davesparks]

what about through gears...... on a bicycle you use less energy to go the same speed up the hill if in a lower gear (3rd instead of 6th) whereas you would use more energy if you stayed in the same gear uphill and the harder you'll need to work right..... so if the motor only needs to work 1/32 of what it used to; then in theory itll demand less power too

or am i wrong again?

You don't use less energy in a lower gear, if anything you may use slightly more due to losses.
It is just easier to turn the pedals in a lower gear as you are applying less energy per rotation of the pedals, but many more rotations of the pedals per 1 rotation of the wheels.

 

[Michael Smith]

as i said in the first comment..... i am thinking of putting a :censored:in great pool in the basement, itll demand around 100-150 KW of power (filters, pumps, heating, water treatment, lighting, pool activities) and the house has 2 floors, plus a skate-park outside and health centre (steam room, Jacuzzi, sauna) demanding around 20-50KW when on

so no i shall not be 'NEEDING' 2 MW of power but they say always have more than required when using inverters so thought id go a 'bit' over :/ (understatement)

 

[Silly Sausage]

what about through gears...... on a bicycle you use less energy to go the same speed up the hill if in a lower gear (3rd instead of 6th) whereas you would use more energy if you stayed in the same gear uphill and the harder you'll need to work right..... so if the motor only needs to work 1/32 of what it used to; then in theory itll demand less power too

or am i wrong again?

I'm afraid so mate!

I wish my food would hurry up and get cooked! :smilielol5:

 

[davesparks]

you have just said what i said earlier; it costs the same as you can generate :/ you want 000's of KW you need to put 000's of KW into it

meaning NO point having them at all..... its more of a converter not a generator

No, what you said earlier is that the motor will use 0.3MW and the house 1MW with 0.5MW leftover!
This is wrong, the motor will require 1% more power input than it is outputting if it is 99% efficient.

 

[shanky887614]

as i said in the first comment..... i am thinking of putting a :censored:in great pool in the basement, itll demand around 100-150 KW of power (filters, pumps, heating, water treatment, lighting, pool activities) and the house has 2 floors, plus a skate-park outside and health centre (steam room, Jacuzzi, sauna) demanding around 20-50KW when on

so no i shall not be 'NEEDING' 2 MW of power but they say always have more than required when using inverters so thought id go a 'bit' over :/ (understatement)

your a fool.

it wont pull 100kw.

a 100a main switch is rated for around 23kw.

what makes you think you will pull as much power as lite industry?

dont forget if you need this much power you will need your own transformer and an 11/33kv supply lol

your calculations are way off

 

[Michael Smith]

You don't use less energy in a lower gear, if anything you may use slightly more due to losses.
It is just easier to turn the pedals in a lower gear as you are applying less energy per rotation of the pedals, but many more rotations of the pedals per 1 rotation of the wheels.

i can see your point..... more fuel going uphill in a lower gear than full throttle in the same gear as you were at the bottom of the hill (as long as you dont stall)

 

[rapparee]

We will be when he catches this thread.

Seriously boys - it could be the answer, main generators at power stations supplying themselves, no more need for coal or oil, nuclear power is a distant memory, and we can avoid having to go to Hamster power!

I'm currently working on the patterson power cell and cold fusion

 

[Silly Sausage]

Michael, come back after you've read this!

Physics For Dummies: Amazon.co.uk: Steve Holzner Ph.D.: Books

 

[RogertheBodger]

I'm currently working on the patterson power cell and cold fusion

Oops, forgot about those lol.