poor workmanship

[shanky887614]

Jeez, I'll put the pair of you in different corners of the class if you can't behave.

lock biff to the trainie section ans trev diy section

 

[trev]

I never go into dark alleyways with strange men mate

 

[Guest55]

replace the word class with cage and youre halfway there............
;-)

 

[Guest55]

lock biff to the trainie section

go on , i dare ya.

there aint enough admin on earth to mop up the carnage.

;-)

 

[guest119]

you wanna test that theory in a darkened alley alone ?

;-)

Blue Oyster Bar banter?

 

[Rockingit]

I never go into dark alleyways with strange men mate

And here was me going to offer you some 'assistance'.

 

[Rockingit]

Blue Oyster Bar banter?

That reference dates all of us far too much!!

 

[shanky887614]

That reference dates all of us far too much!!

you know you want to, we have all seen police academy

 

[Guest55]

Blue Oyster Bar banter?

leather chaps and handlebar moustache all the way.......
;-)

 

[Geordie Spark]

I never go into dark alleyways with strange men mate

Hello sailor!! .... :sailor:

 

[Pete999]

Hi everyone,

I have viewed a job recently where the customer was concerned about the quality of the electrical work. It was a complete rewire and new extension. In investigating the job I found a lot of junction boxes throughout with no identification to line or neutral, I found no earth bond but property is supplied by plastic and is plastic near enough throughout. An electrical installtion certificate has been issued by the company responsible. Would loke to know if anyone has come across this situation or what others would do about it, cheers

Hardly life threatening, but if the customer is concerned about the standard of workmanship, the get him to contact the original installer's scheme, if he is in one, they might do something about it, I say might with tongue in cheek

 

[Guest77]

Hi everyone,

I have viewed a job recently where the customer was concerned about the quality of the electrical work. It was a complete rewire and new extension. In investigating the job I found a lot of junction boxes throughout with no identification to line or neutral, I found no earth bond but property is supplied by plastic and is plastic near enough throughout. An electrical installtion certificate has been issued by the company responsible. Would loke to know if anyone has come across this situation or what others would do about it, cheers

So there was no identification in JBs and due to plastic pipes throughout the property and no Main Equipotential Bonding Conductor has been identified as installed and
what would I do?

Okay= I would tell the customer I normally charge 200 quid plus VAT @20% to carry out a full EICR of the Electrical installation and I would promise them I would issue a full report if anything dangerous was found as well as the test certificate, if however they have the original EIC from the company who recently rewired the premises I could more than likely save them some money if the readings on the EIC started to correspond with my new readings.

Now if after 4 circuits they matched or nearly matched I would probably tell them although BS7671 "may" have been ignored regarding some parts of the installation, it was in fact safe and therefore there was nothing to concern yourself with. To finish I would suggest to them if they wanted further peace of mind they could phone the original installers and ask them to remedy anything highlighted in my EICR.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

You've mentioned that the home owner was 'concerned' about the quality of the work Alan, then you have mentioned no sleeving on certain conductors to identify them and also no Main bonding. Are these the 2 concerns that the homeowner has raised?

If these are the only 2 concerns then you just need to test any metal work that you are concerned about to see if it is extraneous, and then act accordingly depending on the results. As for the missing sleeving, like the others have said, it's very sloppy but I dont think many homeowners would want to pay you £25p/hr checking every switch to see if it needs some sleeving.

If these are just 2 amongst many other concerns then you could either advise the homeowner to contact whomever carried out the work to answer their concerns and perhaps start a complaint (every registered electrician will have a complaints procedure). Or, if the homeowner does not want to contact them (I'm assuming they dont for some reason, hence contacting you), you advise them to have an EICR carried out.

Thats what I would do anyway.

I'd be interested to hear what the outcome is, it's always nice to have an update..

 

[trev]

Steve, come on. Advising a full EICR is just making work for the sake of it. I'd do a couple of random tests to see if the results on the EIC are true or not then talk to the home owner about what I found then take it from there.
If the sample tests show major discrepancies then it's time for the original electrician to come back and explain himself.

 

[urbanmonkey]

I did say something similar a couple of pages back. I firmly believe that with the original EIC to hand, a couple of hours poking about and testing will soon let you know if something is afoot. Personally I think it just sounds like someone didn't have any sleeving with them, granted if they were lazy there could be other issues, still, the bonding is not an issue at all unless you usually run around tagging up plastic pipework for the sake of it. Anything more than an initial couple of hours work to find out where the land lies is pushing it. Advising a full EICR over a couple of jb's without sleeving is nothing more than blatant money making, no wonder joe public always think they are getting ripped off!