poor workmanship

[HappyHippyDad]

Steve, come on. Advising a full EICR is just making work for the sake of it. I'd do a couple of random tests to see if the results on the EIC are true or not then talk to the home owner about what I found then take it from there.
If the sample tests show major discrepancies then it's time for the original electrician to come back and explain himself.

Thats fair enough Trev. I did mean the EICR 'if' it wasn't just those 2 concerns 'and' there were many other concerns, 'and' then only after the homeowner has called the previous electrician. But perhaps you're right, even then if a few tests show all is matching the EIC results then call it a day... depends a bit on what the other concerns may be?

 

[Adam W]

If you were doing the rewire would you have bonded the plastic pipework?

 

[cprfenom]

I agree with an EICR being overkill, but I am interested in what the customer thought was bad workmanship. I am not sure any customer of mine would be looking in junction boxes and looking for sleeving etc.

Just offer to spend an hour doing a sample test against the original EIC and see if it comes close.

 

[trev]

If you were doing the rewire would you have bonded the plastic pipework?

Absolutely.....Water MUST be bonded lol

 

[andyelectric]

I agree with an EICR being overkill, but I am interested in what the customer thought was bad workmanship. I am not sure any customer of mine would be looking in junction boxes and looking for sleeving etc.

Just offer to spend an hour doing a sample test against the original EIC and see if it comes close.

I must admit I was also wondering about the customers initial concerns. Hopefully the op will be back to explain. Seems a bit strange that op is taking time to take apart sockets instead of comparing a couple of readings to EIC which wouldn't take much difference timewise, but depends what customer said. Then again I am a mere Electrical Trainee.

 

[ipf]

Absolutely.....Water MUST be bonded lol

No need to strip the cable for connection, though.......could have used some g/y sleeving and tied it on, I suppose but, then again, seems he didn't have any :thinking:

 

[Knobhead]

Hi everyone,

I have viewed a job recently where the customer was concerned about the quality of the electrical work. It was a complete rewire and new extension. In investigating the job I found a lot of junction boxes throughout with no identification to line or neutral, I found no earth bond but property is supplied by plastic and is plastic near enough throughout. An electrical installtion certificate has been issued by the company responsible. Would loke to know if anyone has come across this situation or what others would do about it, cheers

Nothing.

I think I will suggest a full test and inspect through each circuit and rectify any errors as they arrise.

Now we get to the crux of the thread. Screwing money out of the customer.

 

[Plonker 3]

Alan why have you gotten involved in this?

 

[Guest55]

i've read this twice and still confused.com

so a registered contractor has completed a rewire and supplied certification - so far so good.

they havent bonded pipes that are entirely plastic - good , it shows a bit of applied thought.

they have used the grey in 3core cable for neutral - well thats how ive been doing it since the advent of the new wiring colours in 2007.


all that appears amiss is maybe some coloured tape markings in a few j.b.'s that the customer will never see anyway ?

big deal , hardly grounds for pulling a new installation apart is it.

anyone else get the feeling that the whole story isnt being provided here ?

 

[shanky887614]

i've read this twice and still confused.com

so a registered contractor has completed a rewire and supplied certification - so far so good.

they havent bonded pipes that are entirely plastic - good , it shows a bit of applied thought.

they have used the grey in 3core cable for neutral - well thats how ive been doing it since the advent of the new wiring colours in 2007.


all that appears amiss is maybe some coloured tape markings in a few j.b.'s that the customer will never see anyway ?

big deal , hardly grounds for pulling a new installation apart is it.

anyone else get the feeling that the whole story isnt being provided here ?

your not supposed to use black as N anymore so that diy'ers dont connect phase to N


unless its re-using old wiring

 

[Guest55]

your not supposed to use black as N anymore so that diy'ers dont connect phase to N


unless its re-using old wiring

i dont use black for N in new wiring so please refrain from sullying my good post by association with the amatuers.

;-)

 

[trev]

anyone else get the feeling that the whole story isnt being provided here ?

I get the feeling that the OP is trying to justify work which is totally unnecessary, perhaps he's thinking that he'd get back up for his get rich quick scheme which he could show to this unfortunate customer in the hope that the thread would convince them to buy into his nonsense. We could all be totally wrong as you say, maybe there is more to the story.

 

[Plonker 3]

your not supposed to use black as N anymore so that diy'ers dont connect phase to N


unless its re-using old wiring

And why not?

 

[Plonker 3]

i've read this twice and still confused.com

so a registered contractor has completed a rewire and supplied certification - so far so good.

they havent bonded pipes that are entirely plastic - good , it shows a bit of applied thought.

they have used the grey in 3core cable for neutral - well thats how ive been doing it since the advent of the new wiring colours in 2007.


all that appears amiss is maybe some coloured tape markings in a few j.b.'s that the customer will never see anyway ?

big deal , hardly grounds for pulling a new installation apart is it.

anyone else get the feeling that the whole story isnt being provided here ?

I want to know why this other "spark" has got involved?

 

[ian.settle1]

Must be the new thing they are getting taught now, if you don't know what your doing just recommend a EICR not the first time this has been posted