Running cable in a new build.

[Breaker]

I was working with a contractor as part of my Electrical Trainee course and we were wiring a new build.

I noticed that the time served and apprentice trained sparky was telling me to run the cables through and around rsj's and into un-accesable places. I mentioned to him that if he would have to come back to this property in 20 years would he find it easy to work on because of where he has run the cables. He shrugged his shoulders and said it's quicker this way.

I was trained on my Electrical Trainee course to think ahead and it's also good practice to think about future sparky's who may have to work on the property while carrying out additional work. I mentioned to him it would be better to run the cable under the floorboards but he didn't want to drill the holes.

So is it best to think like a Electrical Trainee and plan ahead or like the apprentice trained sparky, do it the easiest and quickest way?

Thanks.

 

[Breaker]

since when have safe zones been 200mm?

Yeah sorry. 150mm. I had 200mm in my head for some reason.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Hardly a suitable response is it?

eh???

what?

 

[shanky887614]

Yeah sorry. 150mm.

i suggest you re-read your notes.


how can you run cables within 150mm of the corner when you have sockets in the middle off the wall?

simple question

 

[Breaker]

i suggest you re-read your notes.


how can you run cables within 150mm of the corner when you have sockets in the middle off the wall?

simple question

I am referring to 522.6.101. A clear cable run from downstairs to above the upstairs ceiling. It was a lighting circuit. But cables branch off and were running horizontally outside of the zones to wall lights when they should have come straight down to the wall lights.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Run them in line with light switches or sockets ;-)

 

[shanky887614]

I am referring to 522.6.101. A clear cable run from downstairs to above the upstairs ceiling.

osg 9.2.2

iii "routing of cables in safe zones or protection against mechanical damage"

 

[Breaker]

osg 9.2.2

iii "routing of cables in safe zones or protection against mechanical damage"

Yep that's right. But they weren't doing it like that. That's what I am saying. If there was a switch on the wall then above and under it or to the sides becomes a permitted cable route. But there was no switch to go on the wall so therefore it was outside of the permitted zone.

 

[Rockingit]

Breaker - turn your messaging on!

 

[Breaker]

Breaker - turn your messaging on!

Messaging is now on.

 

[Hawkmoon]

Yep they were placing JB's behind the plaster board as well. When I mentioned it the excuse was that they were 15th edition sparky's and things have change since they did their apprenticeships.

On a new build??? - BS - stop trolling

 

[Hawkmoon]

Hardly a suitable response is it?

Perfectly suitable response if you don't believe a word of what this Electrical Trainee troll is saying

 

[MDJ]

The problem is I think both the "5 week" course and the "apprentice" route will have been shown/taught the correct way to do things but in reality corners are cut for ease/lazyness and/or to save money! Not saying it is in this case because we dont know the specifics of the install but who hasn't come across work where you've sat back and thought, this isnt right ......

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My Point fella was if he is still in training on a 5 week course then he has not reached 5 weeks yet hense my reply, no malice intended at all towards the OP.

 

[Breaker]

My Point fella was if he is still in training on a 5 week course then he has not reached 5 weeks yet hense my reply, no malice intended at all towards the OP.

I completed my five weeks last June. I started my 5 weeks 2 years before that. In that time I have been working on and off for free and I have only just applied for my first job as a sparky. The company I had the interview with know the score and will be training me with more experienced sparky's and not paying me as much, of course. I know the score, they know the score, seems that you guy's don't though.

 

[MDJ]

I completed my five weeks last June. I started my 5 weeks 2 years before that. In that time I have been working on and off for free and I have only just applied for my first job as a sparky. The company I had the interview with know the score and will be training me with more experienced sparky's and not paying me as much, of course. I know the score, they know the score, seems that you guy's don't though.

I have forgotten more than you will ever learn fella' I was trying to be nice' but if you want to discuss qualifications and experience I would be happy to stick my gloves on

 

[Breaker]

I have forgotten more than you will ever learn fella' I was trying to be nice' but if you want to discuss qualifications and experience I would be happy to stick my gloves on

Please stop taking everything I say the wrong way.
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