Showers

[onions1066]

Spin you are easier to wind up than my mrs.

 

[onions1066]

What about if I go to a pre harmonisation installation.?

 

[rattlehead85]

What about if I go to a pre harmonisation installation.?

You wouldn't be here to post on this now boring thread.

 

[onions1066]

I'm not on one right now

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Spin you are easier to wind up than my mrs.

You think I'm wound up?

 

[onions1066]

50/50 I'm only winding you up mate. I promise never to mention a shower on here again. Or rcd's, or colour blindness . Sorry if I've forgot anything

 

[MDJ]

Thats it I'm banning you both haha

 

[onions1066]

Sorry mr MDJ sir I made my apology please don't ban me how will I fill my days? Lol. And I promise Never to talk to spin again as long as he admits I was right about the shower the rcd and the colour blindness lol

 

[ian.settle1]

50/50 I'm only winding you up mate. I promise never to mention a shower on here again. Or rcd's, or colour blindness . Sorry if I've forgot anything

Showing respect to senior members of the forum :wink_smile:

 

[onions1066]

Showing respect to senior members of the forum :wink_smile:

That unfortunately is one I can't promise.:30:

 

[polo1]

i find it's generally those wo have the money/posh houses/cars/etc. that are the worst payers. many a time i've quoted working class families and have been asked if i want money up front for materials, and when job is done, cash on the nail, no problems.

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i find it's generally those wo have the money/posh houses/cars/etc. that are the worst payers. many a time i've quoted working class families and have been asked if i want money up front for materials, and when job is done, cash on the nail, no problems.

Have to say Tel, that's been my experience too!

 

[Engineer54]

I don't know what the arguments about, irrespective of what BS7671 states or doesn't state. Any self respecting professional electrical tradesman would install a bathroom shower unit with a DP local means of isolation and with additional RCD protection.

Never quite understand why an electrician needs BS7671 to have every little thing in black and white!! It's a guide for electricians and the like, it assumes (quite rightly) that you have a thorough understanding of electrical installations!! It's not and never has been a '' Step by step teach yourself how to do it book'' and it's certainly not a bible!!
Using the Reg's to limit an installations needs, because it's not specifically mentioned in the context of work being undertaken is a complete No, No in my book!!

 

[telectrix]

E54, i make that 14 posts without mentioning earth rods. that's a record for you, mate. LOL.:sunny:

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The problem I have with DP isolators is:
There is no requirement in the majority of installations for DP isolation.
Isolation in the majority of installations can be achieved by switching the switch on the MCB/RCBO or by removing the fuse.
DP isolation can be achieved in virtually all installations by switching the Main switch.
There are further drawbacks with instaling local DP isolation.
It increases the cost.
It introduces a point which will require inspection in the future.
It introduces a point at which a fault can occur.
It introduces an item of equipment which can fail.
Often these items of equipment are a pain to install.

It's not necessarily the case that the Regs. are being used to limit an installations needs.
It may be that local isolation is not desired for the reasons stated above, or for any other reason.
In such cases, all the Regs. are doing is verifying the installers decision not to provide local DP isolation.

 

[MDJ]

To be fair though Spin if a spark around our parts joined a firm and was sent to wire a shower and he didn't install a pull cord switch, he wouldn't be in work the next day, it is really the expected and done way and considered the norm IMO by the vast majority of electricians, rollocks to regs.