Tell us about your faults!

[kung]

Hi ALL
Just thought id put this one up for all those faults we find.
heres one to kick it off !
Domestic RCD tripped and wouldnt reset cause was a blown low energy light bulb.
There you go now for yours !

 

[chcnorris29]

couldn,t the blues just be sleeved in brown? and the browns in blooo?-- bloooobydy doothe ceiling roses could be topsy tervysockets back the front

Why bother, have to disconnect to put it on then reconnect, may as well redo correctly.

 

[Tiny Spark]

Cant see any problems there Hubsy.... :s
Oh other than the missing fuse out of the plug top.
Wont work without that, silly people!!

Seriously some things begger belief!

 

[chcnorris29]

Re: Tell us about your faults !

found this in a suspended ceiling today. the pics are far from the best as they are off the phone. all the cpc`s were wired outside the jb well it`s original if nothing else. 5 or 6 live cables chopped and left coming out the ends of it one 20 foot away form the jb. the socket was one of the ones that were still wired into it, on .75mm. another quality instal by bodjit and run

Lack of space in a JB. Means people can do some really neat jobs. (Ye sarcastic).

 

[chcnorris29]

Re: Tell us about your faults !

How about this for a neat and tidy job!

Wheres the problem...

 

[epicelectrical]

Just had one still unresolved.......
got called out to a house this evening with 'nuisance tripping' of RCD. Got there and noticed there was a 30mA RCD before the C/U and also one as the main switch on the C/U (no distinction between RCD's)
i then did a ramp test on RCD and neither tripped. I went at x5 on 30mA and nothing. I then kept going up as far as 1000mA and still wouldn't trip. I put an earth leakage tester on and went straight to OL on 400mA range. I took out the first RCD and replaced it with a Henley block hoping something might be better but the RCD M/S was still tripping completely randomly when not under test conditions. I started looking at circuits. I noticed that the downstairs sockets had <80mA of residual so unplugged everything from the circuit and still had <40mA of residual under no load. I took off a selection of faceplates and behind one was a parallel ring (4 of each conductor in the terminals behind double socket, two old and 2 harmonised!) the shower cover was already off, a seemingly 'in use' socket in lounge with now power at it but conductors behind. a halogen hob off an FCU from ring final and a 2KW cooker from 32A 6mm radial (not other way around as youd expect) the o/s light switch was taped to off position and another circuit in the C/U said 'ring old and new' with 4 line conductors in one 3871! The house is rented and couldn't get hold of the landlord to get consent or assurance of payment to start lifting floors, taking more time or chopping holes in flat roof area above dreaded kitchen etc etc. I think I will have to suggest an RCBO setup to the landlord with the scope of partial reword and see what else I find? Anyhow, has anyone come across an RCD that will not trip under test, will carry over what it's rated at, but will trip randomly with no extra load being added? I think it could be lots of things such as loose connections on a JB, water ingress through flat roof or maybe VIR lurking under the floor that the previous slippery spark may have neglected to be move and instead join fresh twin on 'visible areas'?

 

[sajeel]

love the earthing you got there. Very safe with no gapes in the board.Don't see any issue. (Sarcastic before you ask).Thanks

Dell boy bodges are us

 

[Andrewr3]

Yesterdays domestic fault was a short between live and earth on a length of T&E. Caused by a fridge freezer being pushed into position and crushing the cable between a freezer foot and the floor. The cable was loose on the floor near the wall because the cable installer (kitchen fitter) had not clipped or secured the cables back to the wall or enclosed them. Also found at the same time the old ring main extension joints into to new kitchen were hidden behind a fitted cupboard unit where the joints were simply blue barrel crimps wrapped in sticky tape without a enclosure. Also noted that two of the kitchen sockets were fitted directly onto the kitchen units (not the wall), which I seem to recall this should not have been done.

 

[Poptasticdave]

Also noted that two of the kitchen sockets were fitted directly onto the kitchen units (not the wall), which I seem to recall this should not have been done.

I've come across this many times, and not just in kitchen cupboards but also fitted study furniture and fitted wardrobes. I was always under the impression that it was wrong (though I seem to think that, at least back in 15th ed days when I was fully reg'd and working, it was not actually against the reg's, just not recommended - could be wrong, it's a long time back). However, I was quite surprised recently when I was bemoaning the fitting of a double 13A socket and two Fused Spurs to the inside of a kitchen unit, right under the cold stop tap - which was leaking slightly - and a fully qual'd and reg'd spark, of 40+ year's experience, who I've always trusted, said it was absolutely fine and other than siting them right under the stop cock he couldn't see anything contravening reg's.
Be interesting to see what other folk on here think - and no, I've not bothered to get out my 17th ed book and check, so I do accept I may be completely wrong.

 

[Engineer54]

I'm with you on this, i don't and never have, installed socket outlets to kitchen cabinets. As far as i'm concerned it's bad practice, and can cause more problems than it's worth in the long term!!

 

[davethsparky]

I'm with you on this, i don't and never have, installed socket outlets to kitchen cabinets. As far as i'm concerned it's bad practice, and can cause more problems than it's worth in the long term!!

How do you fit sockets etc in island units without fixing to the cabinets?

 

[Poptasticdave]

How do you fit sockets etc in island units without fixing to the cabinets?

Hmm....that's a good point!

 

[willy fixit]

I agree, it's defo better to fit accessories to the structure of the building - as far as I remember though it's not a reg. just a recommendation in the Guide to Building Regs - I'm sure someone will find it soon and correct or confirm!

 

[Engineer54]

How do you fit sockets etc in island units without fixing to the cabinets?

With great difficulty i would imagine!! lol!!

 

[nickblake]

Re: Tell us about your faults !

doing remedial works on a house all insulation reading were over 200 meg , then installing an earth bond I moved a heating pipe and touched a screw and bang , the screw holding the heating trunking to the wall went straight through the live of the immersion heater cable and nothing else just goes to show you can still get a fault even though you have tested and all appears fine !

 

[bawall]

Had a call from a local cafe " our power keeps tripping and we have to keep resetting it but now the button is in but there is still no power" here is what I found



Food warmer, hotplate, kettle, toaster, fryer, Large coffee machine and a fridge all fed of the one 30A circuit wonder how it lasted as long as it has now has a new board and split in to 3 new rings and all the old melted chock block joints removed