Terminating SWA glands at both ends

[markc17]

Hey all,

Was wondering if there is any reg that states an armoured cable has to have a gland both ends?
It is a 3 core single phase 10mm so has an internal earth.. ive earthed it the supply end into the board... The cable runs outside along a building then ducks back in through the wall.
The other end is to go into a small Wylex 2 way C.U. in a server room.
My problem is that the CU has a fully detatchable plastic cover, and the only entrance hole is given at the back.. giving nowhere to terminate the SWA. Even if i packed the board off the wall in wood...there would not be room to make it off properly at the back as the entrance hole is prefab.
I know manufacturers recommend proper termination using a gland.. but the armouring is earthed.. and if i hold the cable tight with cleats.. is there any reason that i cannot tape the armouring to the sheath and slot the cover over it, without a brass gland? Perhaps cable tie the top of the cable to the back of the consumer unit?
The room is locked to the public.. and i am the only person that will have anything to do with the board.

I once worked at a company where they did not gland one end of the armoured where it went into air conditioning units... cant find anywhere that actually states whether it is ok to do or not..

First time dealing with a cheap board like this so any advise apreciated..

Mark

 

[markc17]

how will that not be proffessional? i make off into a box.. keep the tails long and rather than SLOT the cover.. which comes off completely... or chase out the wall...i will pack out the CU off the wall so i can come in the premade back entry... i dont see the problem?

 

[markc17]

Its good that people can come on here and ask for opinions and debate without being chastised..

 

[Outspoken]

Its good that people can come on here and ask for opinions and debate without being chastised..

Mark, do you really expect to come here and state you will do something that looks like a --- on your head and not expect a rebuke?

Come on chap, I sincerely hope your standards are better than that.

 

[telectrix]

slot the cover. as long as the ad. box is close up to the bottom of the cover.

 

[markc17]

Mark, do you really expect to come here and state you will do something that looks like a --- on your head and not expect a rebuke?

Come on chap, I sincerely hope your standards are better than that.

Its all good... i asked the question because i knew it was not the 'proper' way to do it..theres not much armoured to work with and it is in the corner of a room.. if the cable was securely fixed to the point of entering the enclosure the danger was not as obvious to me as some are suggesting.. plus im not sure if i am going to have to make a joint in the box to extend it if i take the gland back that far...Would have negated the need for a joint.
This is a server room locked to all but trained personell so its not like i was doing this as an install in someones garage...
Still, i am going to do it as it should be done.... thanks for the advise.

 

[Thomas123]

Markc17 you are seriously rough, the firm you worked seen like utter dog sh!te too if that's what they think is good practise.

 

[trev]

I have never done anything other than gland both ends of an armoured cable. Not doing it is rough, unprofessional and will look as rough as sticks. I can't imagine any scenario where it would be appropriate to omit a gland and if I were to employ people and they did such an appalling job they would be picking up their P45 very soon after I discovered it.
The guy I was apprenticed to would have knocked seven bells out of me if I'd done this.

 

[markc17]

Markc17 you are seriously rough, the firm you worked seen like utter dog sh!te too if that's what they think is good practise.

Again, thanks for the constructive criticism. I did my time in a few firms.. my experience is what it is.. i didnt exactly have a great deal of choice who i worked for. As i said.. i have never made off an armoued before without a gland.. i was asking a question as to whether people ever did and i certainly got my answer.

 

[Thomas123]

Again, thanks for the constructive criticism. I did my time in a few firms.. my experience is what it is.. i didnt exactly have a great deal of choice who i worked for. As i said.. i have never made off an armoued before without a gland.. i was asking a question as to whether people ever did and i certainly got my answer.

Glad to be of service!

 

[Robotstar5]

Have you got room for a Henley gland?

 

[hasel5]

Sounds like a lot of upset people here on this one Have a think about it and give a reason why ?

 

[yellowvanman]

I have never done anything other than gland both ends of an armoured cable.

How about when you have to seperate the earths of the source with the new install? Nothing wrong in using a compression gland to support/secure the cable along with the cable cleats.

 

[shanky887614]

Have you got room for a Henley gland?

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why is it called a henley gland?

all i see is a saddle

 

[Outspoken]

why is it called a henley gland?

all i see is a saddle

For the same reason a service connector is called a Henley Block by older sparks

 

[Engineer54]

why is it called a henley gland?

all i see is a saddle

That looks more like a T&E clamp gland to me!! lol!!