Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not sure!

[yoz7241]

I am thinking bout going into voltage optimisation, i think this technology went unnoticed domestically due to the solar being a biggy in the energy market and now with it dying off due to goverment tariff cuts i think if more people understood voltage optimisation, alot more people would have it.
Just wondering if any other companies have tried, been successful or failed and if anyone else thinks this might be the next step into cutting forever growing energy bills!!!!

Any information you may have would be grately appreciated.

 

[yoz7241]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

As Tel says, it only works on lighting. It's Ohms law at the end of the day. It probably will prolong the life of some appliances because a 3kw element is probably only taking 2.6Kw (just guessed, haven't done the maths), but on the reverse of that it will take longer to heat up.
Used to put in industrial units and had to only put it on the lighting. In car parks it was fine until a circuit was not marked properly and then the ticket machines and barriers would not work because the electronics were voltage sensitive.

Im on about the domestic market and designated circuits not the whole board, anything with thermostatic controls would be untouched!, Obviously the kitchen ring would still be optimised, but it would only mean it would take abit longer to heat the kettle up or toast your toast!!!

 

[whlphil]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

Yeah ive heard alot of companies say they can achieve, 22% which is rubbish!!! V phase say its around 8- 12%, is that price including installation????

No thats just the unit, try Apex wiring, Durham way I think, best of all its a British made unit!

 

[yoz7241]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

No thats just the unit, try Apex wiring, Durham way I think, best of all its a British made unit!

wow, i can get a v phase unit for £170

 

[Top Cat]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

Im on about the domestic market and designated circuits not the whole board, anything with thermostatic controls would be untouched!, Obviously the kitchen ring would still be optimised, but it would only mean it would take abit longer to heat the kettle up or toast your toast!!!

I understand what you are saying and agree about normal voltage being above 240 but i wonder what would happen at peak times when the voltage may go down to 220V, would the unit still drop the voltage down by 20% or whatever it is set at?

 

[whlphil]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

wow, i can get a v phase unit for £170

Dont take my word for it, it might have been about £170 - £350 could have been installed - i dont do domestic so wasnt paying masses of attention to that price ;-)

 

[yoz7241]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

I understand what you are saying and agree about normal voltage being above 240 but i wonder what would happen at peak times when the voltage may go down to 220V, would the unit still drop the voltage down by 20% or whatever it is set at?

No it stays the same!!!

 

[Earthstore]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

I understand what you are saying and agree about normal voltage being above 240 but i wonder what would happen at peak times when the voltage may go down to 220V, would the unit still drop the voltage down by 20% or whatever it is set at?

They drop it to around 220V, however, there are different units on the market and one of the common ones goes into bypass at above 20A or less than 5A, so pretty pointless me thinks.
My person view is they are very good, but you need to do your homework as to which unit is the best, I did.

 

[Top Cat]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

No it stays the same!!!

Dam, just lost another argument!

 

[trev]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

I still don't see any way these things can save a home any money at all. Tel's example of the kettle is spot on imho but then Yop said it would be installed on the kitchen RFC to save cash there. Everything takes longer to heat up so where is the saving coming from? I still think these things are smoke and mirrors and until someone can show me otherwise there is no way in hell I would have one at home or advise a client that they're a good idea

 

[yoz7241]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

They drop it to around 220V, however, there are different units on the market and one of the common ones goes into bypass at above 20A or less than 5A, so pretty pointless me thinks.
My person view is they are very good, but you need to do your homework as to which unit is the best, I did.

Yeah, wat this guys said!!!! lol, what unit would you recommend????

 

[Guest123]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

Personally, none of them. But.....of the current batch, the MT unit seems to outperform teh others.

Voltis Home domestic voltage optimisation Marshall-Tufflex Energy Management

 

[yoz7241]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

I still don't see any way these things can save a home any money at all. Tel's example of the kettle is spot on imho but then Yop said it would be installed on the kitchen RFC to save cash there. Everything takes longer to heat up so where is the saving coming from? I still think these things are smoke and mirrors and until someone can show me otherwise there is no way in hell I would have one at home or advise a client that they're a good idea

The savings would be from your fridge and freezer thats on 24/7, the kettle is on for a few minutes max, id rather wait an extra minute for my cup of tea knowing im saving money to be honest, than to keep the circuit untouched!!!

 

[whlphil]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

I still don't see any way these things can save a home any money at all. Tel's example of the kettle is spot on imho but then Yop said it would be installed on the kitchen RFC to save cash there. Everything takes longer to heat up so where is the saving coming from? I still think these things are smoke and mirrors and until someone can show me otherwise there is no way in hell I would have one at home or advise a client that they're a good idea

Tesco used to put them in all there stores because they work, they have now backed off that tho and are using super low loss transformers instead as they are more cost effective.

 

[trev]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

Ok then so how do I save money on running the fridge freezer and smoke alarms, they're the only things running in our home 24/7.

 

[yoz7241]

Re: Thinking about going into domestic and commercial voltage optimisation, but not s

Ok then so how do I save money on running the fridge freezer and smoke alarms, they're the only things running in our home 24/7.

Because most things around the house are designed to run at 220 volts, so its not just the fridge its everything without a thermostatic control!!!