Total Trade Services - Wales

[liam b]

Just wondering if anyone has heard of total trade services?

anyone worked for them or with them?

good or bad experience?

cheers

 

[sparrrrrky]

Just wondering if anyone has heard of total trade services?

anyone worked for them or with them?

good or bad experience?

cheers

Stay well clear i started work for them in jan left end of feb. they could not run a bath between them.

u will spend most of ur time chaseing up problems like when is my van coming, where is the gear i ordered. when am i getting paid etc. i left end of feb and i still aint been paid in full. its just been one thing after another and i will be glad when this is all done with

 

[sparky3366]

I havent had any problems so far, apart from not getting my sim card for my phone yet...but they are being dished out now. There are some crap sparks on this job and also crap plumbers. If you are a big firm like these are, you are bound to get some bad ones...
I will be staying here as long as its feasible, after all...its not many jobs where you can earn so much for easy work. My earnings for this week are in excess of £700 before tax etc and I didnt bust a gut to get it.

 

[Scott F]

I havent had any problems so far, apart from not getting my sim card for my phone yet...but they are being dished out now. There are some crap sparks on this job and also crap plumbers. If you are a big firm like these are, you are bound to get some bad ones...
I will be staying here as long as its feasible, after all...its not many jobs where you can earn so much for easy work. My earnings for this week are in excess of £700 before tax etc and I didnt bust a gut to get it.

No need to show off Sparky3366

 

[sparky3366]

That wasnt my intention, but if you are willing to work for it you can earn good money here...

 

[Scott F]

I was only having you on Sparky

I tried to find the smiley but couldn't for the life of me, find it.

Sounds a good number

 

[sparky3366]

no problem

 

[doctordus]

Im now in my sixth week working for the company and i have completed 45 jobs for them, travelled 3500 miles across the north of England (God's country) Iv'e spent over £1500 on Fuel, van leasing and spares because the parts you order just dont arrive or arrive late. I have currently been paid absolutely nothing at all!!
If you phone the head office you are not able to speak to the payroll deptment as they are busy (Busy not paying wages) and you are asked to e-mail them instead with your queires for which you get no reply. All the jobs I have done have passed the eaga inspection and have been signed off for paymnet as I have been back to most of the jobs now after I have finished them and taken photos of the work and asked the clients to sign to say how long I was there and the work I carried out for them was of a high standard.
I'm currently owed £5000 and since i started making a fuss about not being paid since starting in Feb they have stopped sending me Jobs.
I'm going to take them to the small claims court for money owed, costs and compensation which will be more than what they currently owe me.
I have never in my life worked for a company run from top to bottom by primates and the service to the Warm front customers who are often elderly is shameful.
The man at the top is probably sat at home in his 10 bed mansion and collection of sports cars laughing his little head off.
Anyone want to join me for a bit of joint court action aginst the company. The more the merrier!!
Dont out of desperation for work due to the economy fall into the trap, They know work is hard to come by at the moment and are exploiting people who are just trying to put food on the table for the family.
I could'nt even buy my son the Birthday present he wanted last week as i'd spent all my money doing jobs for this company.
Big stop sign - Why else would they have a permanent advertisment at the job centre. And as for the bloke who has been there for 4 years. They look after a small group of workers who are on salaries and expect the incoming staff to walk within weeks when they realise whats going on. Its not hard to install a spur for a boiler mate so you'd be hard pressed to actually find problems with a first year apprentice doing the job.
CON CON CON CON CON CON CON CON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Electricalserv]

Im now in my sixth week working for the company and i have completed 45 jobs for them, travelled 3500 miles across the north of England (God's country) Iv'e spent over £1500 on Fuel, van leasing and spares because the parts you order just dont arrive or arrive late. I have currently been paid absolutely nothing at all!!
If you phone the head office you are not able to speak to the payroll deptment as they are busy (Busy not paying wages) and you are asked to e-mail them instead with your queires for which you get no reply. All the jobs I have done have passed the eaga inspection and have been signed off for paymnet as I have been back to most of the jobs now after I have finished them and taken photos of the work and asked the clients to sign to say how long I was there and the work I carried out for them was of a high standard.
I'm currently owed £5000 and since i started making a fuss about not being paid since starting in Feb they have stopped sending me Jobs.
I'm going to take them to the small claims court for money owed, costs and compensation which will be more than what they currently owe me.
I have never in my life worked for a company run from top to bottom by primates and the service to the Warm front customers who are often elderly is shameful.
The man at the top is probably sat at home in his 10 bed mansion and collection of sports cars laughing his little head off.
Anyone want to join me for a bit of joint court action aginst the company. The more the merrier!!
Dont out of desperation for work due to the economy fall into the trap, They know work is hard to come by at the moment and are exploiting people who are just trying to put food on the table for the family.
I could'nt even buy my son the Birthday present he wanted last week as i'd spent all my money doing jobs for this company.
Big stop sign - Why else would they have a permanent advertisment at the job centre. And as for the bloke who has been there for 4 years. They look after a small group of workers who are on salaries and expect the incoming staff to walk within weeks when they realise whats going on. Its not hard to install a spur for a boiler mate so you'd be hard pressed to actually find problems with a first year apprentice doing the job.
CON CON CON CON CON CON CON CON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I said this from the start, every fecker got a job when I went for the interview....Rang alarm bells straight away. Interviews where held at a fecking travel lodge.

The bloke on here saying they are a good firm is most likely one of their PR's

Everybody stay away for your own sake!

 

[doctordus]

Its a con mate they will take anyone with ONLY the 17th and a crb check. I didn't even attend the induction....interview was far too easy and everyone got a fecking job. Thats why they get monkeys not finishing off work...

DO NOT LOWER YOURSELF AS AN ELECTRICIAN TO WORK FOR THESE GUYS!!

Your name is not ***** by any chance??

 

[doctordus]

Sparky 3366 , I take your the only spark working for them in Darlington - Only time will tell, your deluded if you think your going to be paid though or get a sim card for your phone. Oh and just so you know another 15-20 sparks started this week in the North so you might find you have no work this week. Have a good time chasing your money!!!

 

[malcolmsanford]

deleted due to a wrong reply

 

[doctordus]

Sorry electricalserv I didn't mean you when I asked if you were called Brian, I meant NWSparky1. Brian or Bill I think One is the Manager for the North electricians and the other is his trusted side-kick.
As for picking up the pieces NWSparky1 when electricians leave the company thats probably because the previous electrician didn't complete the job as he did not have the parts or stock as it had not been delivered.
Trust me I'm going to do some digging and I'll find as many people as I can to bring court action against this firm. I'm going to get my accountant to dig up the financial records for previous years.
I going to report my greivences with the NICEIC.
I,m going to complain with a letter to my local MP as this is a government funded initiative and public money is not being paid out to those who carry out the work.
I,m going to report this firm to watchdog on the BBC.
Im going to go to the local newspapers ad national newspapers to make the public aware of this.
I,m going to take this to an emloyment tribuneral.
I'm going to contact the Tax office.
I'm going to do quite a lot so at least I'll be busy.

I'll not let this one go. A trip to Colwyn Bay head office next week too.

 

[Apollo]

Malcolm,

I think you need to read doctordus's first post on this thread, he states he has worked for them and got paid nothing. Whilst I agree with you its not the given thing to name people and this should be retracted by editing. I think his point is that these guys are not going to get paid. the manner in delivery is understandable, for me anyway.

The actual ins and outs of this thread are startling. Question is has anyone done anything about this or are they just letting off steam. I'd be reporting them to everyone i could had they treated me that way....

 

[malcolmsanford]

Doctordus I can only sincerely apologise as I read your post as if your were the company and only after appollo (thank you) directed me to your OP did I see that you were a sinned against rather than a sinner.

I can only say that the term mouth and foot come into mind, and once more sincerely apologise for mistaking you doctordus as a company representative.

 

[telectrix]

just like me malcolm, always putting my mouth into operation before engaging brain. LOL.

 

[liam b]

I happen to have seen an instal these clowns did this week, our company got the job because they done such a bad one... The plumber from our place couldnt understand why the pipe work in the loft had 20 more elbows than it should have and laughed at the state of the flue that had let alot of rainwater in. And the customer kicked the 'electrician' out because he was convinced he didnt have a clue what he was doing. Hes currently reportin this firm to whoever he can think of. Papers etc. Oh and neither of the plumbers had gas tickets

 

[Guest123]

Freedom of speech I have no problem with, but PLEASE DO NOT NAME NAMES on the forum as it could get messy for everyone, including EF.

Thank you.

 

[doctordus]

I must laugh Liam B as I think I Know which plumbing job you are on about. I was called to go to this property with another spark after the Guy had kicked the other spark out. When I arrived British gas, Transco, The Health and Safety Exec were all there and me and the other spark refused to take the job on as it was a total farce. It was in Newcastle.
I apologise on my earlier threads foe mentioning names - I respect the right of other peoples privacy and I apologise.

 

[sparky3366]

I must laugh Liam B as I think I Know which plumbing job you are on about. I was called to go to this property with another spark after the Guy had kicked the other spark out. When I arrived British gas, Transco, The Health and Safety Exec were all there and me and the other spark refused to take the job on as it was a total farce. It was in Newcastle.
I apologise on my earlier threads foe mentioning names - I respect the right of other peoples privacy and I apologise.

I was the first spark to turn up at this job in Newcastle...he didnt kick me out, I left after discussions with my boss. I was originally supposed to go move some wiring for the plumbers. I said I would wire the Y plan as well seeing as I was there. The customer refused to let me work past 7pm, would not let the plumbers put a plug on the boiler flying lead and was generally an obmoxious ****. Seeing as I never got there until 3.30pm, there was no guarantee that I wouldve been finished for 7 pm. He was offered space heaters or me working later than 7pm, but the guys carer wouldnt have it.
Please dont slag me off for not knowing what I am doing before you know the facts and not what the customer told you.

 

[Electricalserv]

I was the first spark to turn up at this job in Newcastle...he didnt kick me out, I left after discussions with my boss. I was originally supposed to go move some wiring for the plumbers. I said I would wire the Y plan as well seeing as I was there. The customer refused to let me work past 7pm, would not let the plumbers put a plug on the boiler flying lead and was generally an obmoxious tw*t. Seeing as I never got there until 3.30pm, there was no guarantee that I wouldve been finished for 7 pm. He was offered space heaters or me working later than 7pm, but the guys carer wouldnt have it.
Please dont slag me off for not knowing what I am doing before you know the facts and not what the customer told you.

Aahh so you're the incompetent spark

 

[sparky3366]

No, Im the spark who will not be threatened by a client.

 

[Electricalserv]

No, Im the spark who will not be threatened by a client.

Can you give a full account of what went on in this blokes house.....Unqualified plumbers or just general bad management skills by total trade services?

 

[sparky3366]

It was neither, the guys carer was a total idiot who thought he knew everything. The boiler location was tricky because of the existing wiring and soffit locations but I hadnt looked at the plumbing. The plumbers asked me to reconnect the old wiring onto the new kit but I would never do that and sign my name to it. It was the carer causing all the grief as he thought he knew everything but knew nothing. Everything I said to the client was heard by a company director and he told me to walk. I have never,ever been talked to in that manner by anyone and that guy was a total idiot IMHO. He was made offers for heating but he wouldnt budge on anyone working late.

 

[Electricalserv]

It was neither, the guys carer was a total idiot who thought he knew everything. The boiler location was tricky because of the existing wiring and soffit locations but I hadnt looked at the plumbing. The plumbers asked me to reconnect the old wiring onto the new kit but I would never do that and sign my name to it. It was the carer causing all the grief as he thought he knew everything but knew nothing. Everything I said to the client was heard by a company director and he told me to walk. I have never,ever been talked to in that manner by anyone and that guy was a total idiot IMHO. He was made offers for heating but he wouldnt budge on anyone working late.

To be 100% fair why should have people working in his home after hours? He's the customer and it should be done in his conviniece. I find that totally wrong.

 

[sparky3366]

I wasnt on site until 3.30 as I had already done 1 y plan that day. The office shouldve made a better job of planning the workforce really...I was there to move some cables but said I would wire the system as a favour to the customer.

 

[Electricalserv]

I wasnt on site until 3.30 as I had already done 1 y plan that day. The office shouldve made a better job of planning the workforce really...I was there to move some cables but said I would wire the system as a favour to the customer.

This is why the company is a joke. Electricians turning up at 3 and announcing they wanted to work past 7pm at such short notice. I would have booted you myself. Utter inconvinience.

 

[liam b]

No, Im the spark who will not be threatened by a client.

sorry mate, just what the customer/carer where saying, obviously there making things sound worse than they are, you get some like that...

 

[sparky3366]

This is why the company is a joke. Electricians turning up at 3 and announcing they wanted to work past 7pm at such short notice. I would have booted you myself. Utter inconvinience.

The job wasnt booked in that day and I was doing them a favour.

 

[DurhamSparky]

now now girls.....!!! lol...

 

[sparky3366]

I never announced that I would be doing anything, I said that I wouldnt be finished by 7. Give your head a shake, get your facts right instead of 3rd hand and wind your neck in

 

[DurhamSparky]

hahahahaha....

did any one actually finish this install or not???

 

[sparky3366]

According to the office, they sent 2 people the following day and it was the same type of circus. At the end of the day, I wouldve worked late to get the system working as most people would probably do. But to be spoken to in such a manner with my boss hearing every word and then threatened, I wouldve thought he will have a long wait.

 

[Electricalserv]

The job wasnt booked in that day and I was doing them a favour.

Yes doing that inconvenient company a favour at 7pm.

 

[Electricalserv]

According to the office, they sent 2 people the following day and it was the same type of circus. At the end of the day, I wouldve worked late to get the system working as most people would probably do. But to be spoken to in such a manner with my boss hearing every word and then threatened, I wouldve thought he will have a long wait.

Must have given the man the wrong impression

 

[sparky3366]

You really need to get your facts right before you try to judge people matey...any reasonable customer would usually be glad of someone working late WITHOUT OVERTIME to get them a working system. The guys attitude did him no favours and it was my boss that told me to leave. Whatever the client possibly told you is extaggerated and twisted to suit his own needs. I did nothing wrong, my boss is happy that I did nothing wrong so Im happy and will offer to work late to finish a job whenever the need arises.

 

[Electricalserv]

You really need to get your facts right before you try to judge people matey...any reasonable customer would usually be glad of someone working late WITHOUT OVERTIME to get them a working system. The guys attitude did him no favours and it was my boss that told me to leave. Whatever the client possibly told you is extaggerated and twisted to suit his own needs. I did nothing wrong, my boss is happy that I did nothing wrong so Im happy and will offer to work late to finish a job whenever the need arises.

I'm winding you up mate

 

[jim1976]

i work for them and its great i only had a 3 day week last week and earnt naff all for it. travel money does not cover your diesel so costs you to go to work, it takes to long to stock your van run out of stuff all the time, they never answer the phone. sent me to a combi 2 1/2 hours from my house so in all i was out for 6 1/2 hrs for £58 was not happy. spent 2 hrs stuck in plumb centre because they couldn't put the order though properly. ring me up twice a week to see how many miles my van has done why i don't no. all in all a great place to work

 

[jim1976]

what is it with bonding the bathroom radiator its not needed for like the last 10 years i will not do it looks **** too if you do do it.

 

[londonlec]

I applied to this outfit over christmas, they replied and offered me an interview at Birmingham... it sounds like I am VERY lucky I didnt go!

There's other firms on warmfront etc which pay 3x the figures quoted here, and for LOCAL work!!

 

[plumbertts]

Just thought ill join up onto the site even though im a not a sparky but a plumber and give you my experiance with TTS.

Worked for them for 2years before getting laid off last year...

We use to work on contract's in grimsby/s****horpe on the bullock site.. everything back then was simple.. go to work, pick up our stuff and go to do our job.. In the last 3months of working in s****horp before we lost the contract.. TTS started to pay by CHEQUE and we was told this was a problem with the bank or something or other and it will be sorted for next months payment.. the cheque thing happened for another 6months.. sometimes the cheque would bounce aswell.

We then went onto EAGA work which they would send us to silly places like newcastle(im from grimsby) so a nice 3hour drive there.. Wasn't much problem at the time as they was paying for the fuel on the fuelcards and was using there van/insurance etc. Then they had a big meeting in manchester at 6 at night i belivie? We was working in sheffield that day so had to leave the job early just to get to this meeting, didnt leave the meeting till 11? got home about 1ish.. In this meeting this is were they chose to remove the fuel cards,vans etcetc.

When we had to use to pay with our own fuel etc.. its a ball ache chasing it all up.

We use to sit in plumb centre for about 3hours every morning waiting for the 'heat pack' to get sent threw or sometimes have to sit there because TTS was on 'STOP'

The guy i worked with got laid off and he is still owed about £1500. I know he took them to court.. and i know a few other people have also taken this company to court. Also know a few who have recently joined them and have unpaid wages/fuel but can't leave due to the fact they need the money.

AVOID.