Why do no employers pay the rate any more?

[Hardwired]

I don't know if this is just a Scotland specific problem but all the big domestic electrical firms either pay you below the SJIB rate or you work on a price system which amounts in some cases to you doing a full weeks work for £250. It's doing my head in and I'm thinking of quitting the trade. All the companies I have worked for in the last few years are vastly under paying their staff while putting massive amounts of pressure for results. Rant over. But my question is how can they be getting away with this?

 

[Geordie Spark]

Believe it or not, Margaret Thatcher killed apprenticeships and the rate when she allowed sub contract labour, when that happened the rates and training were finished.

........... and that is how I lost my Training Instructor job that I thought I would have until I retired with a nice pension at the end of it!!

Thank you Maggie - you Bitch!!

 

[Welchyboy1]

. Working on a housing development currently with a price of £30 to box the house and £85 to fit all accessories. Just about doable with a 15 minute break working 8 till 4.30. But that's hoping there are no blips in your day. Which there are always.

Sorry what do you mean £30 to box the house?

 

[GMES]

Sorry what do you mean £30 to box the house?

I just hope he doesn't mean the Disboard!!

 

[tidyboiler]

........... and that is how I lost my Training Instructor job that I thought I would have until I retired with a nice pension at the end of it!!

Thank you Maggie - you Bitch!!

You mean you're not rich? :whatchutalkingabout

 

[marc8]

We are paying good rates on house bashing & the guys are pumping the work out, you pay for what you get out there, if you need any work around essex & just beyond I have 2 new sites starting & another on the way

 

[Geordie Spark]

You mean you're not rich? :whatchutalkingabout

I would be if I could get you to work a bit harder and why aren't you out on Pink Lane yet??

 

[Hardwired]

Box the house out means to cut out and fit all back boxes.

 

[jonny705]

I think its a real shame that apprenticeships, have been lost over the years.

There are so many highly skilled older people out that , that will never pass on their skills to others and some have already been lost for ever.

Some 35 years ago I used to go to work with my Dad on my school holidays and weekends , he was a time served joiner.

In them days all the skills ( and I worked with most of them)- painter to Electrician were time apprentice served.

It now is very common to see:

Decorators that cant paper hang!

Plasterers that can only board and skim.

Bricklayers that cannot do corners - only infill.

And in remembrance of my dad, you ask a carpenter to do a compound joint, and they will ( even with their duel compound 12inch mitre saw ) look at you gone out.

My Dad used a sliding bevel and handsaw, and would make a mitre-box, and it was right first time.

Because he was taught properly, not on-line or from just a book.

I live in Coventry, most of my mates Dads were engineers, and I have slowly watched all the Great factory's, get knocked down, and find it very sad.

 

[tidyboiler]

I would be if I could get you to work a bit harder and why aren't you out on Pink Lane yet??

No, it's raining. :39:

 

[ian.settle1]

No, it's raining. :39:

Wimp LOL

 

[telectrix]

No, it's raining. :39:

take yer plastic mac and thigh boots, then.:49:

 

[tidyboiler]

take yer plastic mac and thigh boots, then.:49:

Oh I find a black, shiny pvc mac and boots far more classy....... as long as you use plenty of talc or you tend to squeak. :gorgeous: