63 Amp Isolator

[Redvanman]

I'm running a 63A supply for a cooker and need to have a local isolator.
Apart from having a 63A main switch in a small enclosure, is there any thing else I could use which is discreet to put in the back of a cupboard.

Thanks

 

[Kate]

I feed switches so thats a bit like a single pole iso. Lol.

 

[D Skelton]

Ah, but do you provide 'local' isolation for that switch should it ever require maintenance?! Lol

 

[Kate]

Nope lol. Mcb I know lights and cooker are same volts as 44allen said. But to me a cooker is more risky. I know thats a bit stupid...maybe its because I can't cook and could easily start a fire hahahaha. And kids have a lovely habit of twisting knobs. We have to iso our cooker at wall when they come over!

 

[kingeri]

Kate, a local isolator isn't going to prevent a cooker fire. The way some of them are installed, they may well cause one though!

 

[44ALLAN]

I feed switches so thats a bit like a single pole iso. Lol.

Same as an mcb then

 

[Kate]

I was making jokes
I was trained up on council then moved to landlords properties so its practice for me to either install iso or mention (but not code!!) If there isnt one.

 

[Mike66]

Should we not bother to fit isolators to extractor fans & showers then? This is becoming a slippery path now

 

[Kate]

Very slippery. Sockets under cupboards/worktops...I fit high level FCU.

 

[44ALLAN]

Should we not bother to fit isolators to extractor fans & showers then? This is becoming a slippery path now

I think you'll find he was just saying there was no need to according to the regs and it progressed from there lol

 

[Marvo]

The fire angle might benefit from a wall isolator, if there was an oil fire I'm sure the homeowner would appreciate a means of complete isolation from a single point. Between that and the benefit of 2-pole isolation to isolate a shared RCD tripping fault plus possibly manufacturers instructions requiring one (even future requirement if stove is replaced) I'd say there was sufficient grounds to install one as a matter of course even if the regs don't specifically state it. On the flip side I'd also say you couldn't code an installation that didn't have one.

 

[1ManRiot]

Well I've enjoyed this thread!

 

[D Skelton]

Should we not bother to fit isolators to extractor fans & showers then? This is becoming a slippery path now

Regulatory speaking, the same applies to showers as it does to cookers. No local isolation is 'needed'. Bathroom fans, haha, well, that's a whole other topic! My feelings surrounding this subject are well known! Lol. If you care to look and learn a little then by all means have a read of this:

http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...3-pole-isolation-source-much-controversy.html

 

[terminator]

Nope lol. Mcb I know lights and cooker are same volts as 44allen said. But to me a cooker is more risky. I know thats a bit stupid...maybe its because I can't cook and could easily start a fire hahahaha. And kids have a lovely habit of twisting knobs. We have to iso our cooker at wall when they come over!

Kate - that is one damn good reason to have a local isolator out of reach - young inquisitive kids.

 

[Mike66]

Regulatory speaking, the same applies to showers as it does to cookers. No local isolation is 'needed'. Bathroom fans, haha, well, that's a whole other topic! My feelings surrounding this subject are well known! Lol. If you care to look and learn a little then by all means have a read of this:

http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...3-pole-isolation-source-much-controversy.html

You know what. I have spent the last 15mins reading & double reading the BGB regarding isolation & you know what you may be right.

I hadve an old 2005 domestic electrical Installation Guide & it says it needs it quite clearly in that under reg 460-01-01. That section has now changed due the 17th edition. Just goes to show that when they rewrite these regs it is'n always for the better LOL.

But congratulations it looks like you are going to keep your £1000.

I will still continue to install them though.

 

[D Skelton]

I will still continue to install them though.

As will I, and I certainly won't think any less of you for doing so!