Blanks missing from CU in 2 senarios

[Wonderwall]

Any opinion on the rates offered. There is aprox 27 boards all with various amounts of blanks missing . All within a 10 min walikng distance . Eg 10 min from first to last. Not 10 min from 1 to the next

 

[Nigel]

I don't see why there would be a difference between high level and low level in this scenario?

It's like saying light switch missing, exposed live parts - C1. Ceiling rose missing, exposed live parts - C2.

Most ceiling roses can be easily reached from ground level.

How can an exposed conductive part at say 4 meters up be an immediate danger to life or property?

 

[Nigel]

I would apply a code C2 in both scenarios.
There is a potential for danger.

A C2 for an exposed conductive part available to touch?

 

[Nigel]

Please can we remind members to reply to each other with respect and a polite manner, a post has been deleted for mocking another member, let's not slip into personal attacks, having a difference of opinion is inevitable given the industry and the ambiguity of the Regs, if you believe someone is wrong then make your case an if possible back it up while at the same time been respectful and polite.

That looks like mine that was deleted. It was meant as tongue in cheek, hence the winky smiley face.

I did not have @Dillb down as a sensitive soul.

@Dillb I apologise if I hurt your feelings.

 

[westward10]

I would apply a code C2 in both scenarios.
There is a potential for danger.

I agree, there is potential. Seems to me people jump on the Code 1 train at every opportunity, I rarely note a Code 1.

 

[Nigel]

I agree, there is potential. Seems to me people jump on the Code 1 train at every opportunity, I rarely note a Code 1.

I also hardly ever issue C1s but an exposed conductive part available to touch is a C1. There is no debate about it in my opinion.

 

[Darkwood]

That looks like mine that was deleted. It was meant as tongue in cheek, hence the winky smiley face.

No worries, rib tickling and banter are fine lines to play on the forum, and is a card that is easily overplayed given that your only real knowledge of other members is their name and avatar mst of the time, the worst time to post it does tend to be after a disagreement of position. Playing such a card at the right time is an art in itself given the natural design of forums to mask members identities.
Yes I noted it was probably done more in a jovial context and given your apology I'm sure all is resolved

I don't think Dilb is a sensitive soul as you put it, it was just given the little to an fro between you both prior it was just a little misjudged to post it and sensing it could become something more he felt it best to nip it in the bud, I did agree with the position that it can be taken personally giving the previous posts leading to it hence my interjection.

 

[westward10]

Of course there is debate as there are no guidelines. There is potential to cause harm and of course the style of dist board may affect the decision.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

A C2 for an exposed conductive part available to touch?

I wouldn’t apply a code for an exposed conductive part available to touch.

 

[Nigel]

I wouldn’t apply a code for an exposed conductive part available to touch.

Ok

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Ok

I’m in my kitchen at the moment.
In my kitchen are 2 radiators, a fridge freezer, washing machine, kettle, pedal bin, stainless steel sink, microwave, toaster, 3 door handles some cutlery, amongst other things.
All are conductive and all are exposed to touch.

I can see you having fun with metal CUs.

 

[MG201]

I would apply a code C2 in both scenarios.
There is a potential for danger.

Just shows how much the regs are down to the individual to interpret. I understand every case is diffrent e.g. location access etc.

 

[Nigel]

I’m in my kitchen at the moment.
In my kitchen are 2 radiators, a fridge freezer, washing machine, kettle, pedal bin, stainless steel sink, microwave, toaster, 3 door handles some cutlery, amongst other things.
All are conductive and all are exposed to touch.

I can see you having fun with metal CUs.

Well done. You got me there.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Just shows how much the regs are down to the individual to interpret. I understand every case is diffrent e.g. location access etc.

It’s not an interpretation, it’s an application of the Regulations as written.

 

[Nigel]

It’s not an interpretation, it’s an application of the Regulations as written.

Which are totally open to interpretation.