EU Brexit - How will you vote given the latest "news"

[Adam W]

the mainly millionaire Tories wanting out want less regulation so they can hoard their money and pay no tax.

Actually many "Tories", David Cameron included, want to stay in the EU. This isn't simply about the "hardworking" "nice" left wanting to stay in and the "greedy" "nasty" right wanting out - workshy layabouts are more likely to vote Labour because they are the party of supporting people who can't be bothered to work, while many hardworking, working class families support conservative ideals. There are probably a lot of Labour supporters who want more of a communist Britain, but unfortunately for them Labour made being pro-Europe one of their core policies.

 

[andyb]

There's a difference between "pressuring" someone to do something - making them feel obliged to do it, and "forcing" them to do something, where they have no option.

You are of course right,

It wasn't "the company" sending letters to employees warning them to vote 'in', it was a person working on behalf of that company. Maybe the CEO or managing director. I expect they could find reasons for either vote if it suited them, but in either case I don't feel it's appropriate to be telling employees how to use their vote as if the company owns them.

Companies can't actually send letters, it would have to be a person. They would still only do what they thought was best for the company.

Actually it was David Cameron who mentioned that.

Cameron made a speech where he spoke (stuipdly in my opinion) about past conflicts in Europe. It was Johnson who the same day stretched that to world war 3.

It wasn't just the UN, it was several organisations, but it's doubtful that Tony Blair would have been given the position if he hadn't been so pro-Europe.

Not sure about that

No it didn't 'just' say that, it said

Corbyn seems to be being told which side to support based on Labour's previous ways of securing votes, ie "vote Labour otherwise you're a bigot". Remember Gillian Duffy? She challenged Gordon Brown on issues which were of concern to her, and he simply dismissed her as "bigoted".

Unless you're referencing a previous post, you definatly did not say that.

 

[andyb]

Actually many "Tories", David Cameron included, want to stay in the EU. This isn't simply about the "hardworking" "nice" left wanting to stay in and the "greedy" "nasty" right wanting out - workshy layabouts are more likely to vote Labour because they are the party of supporting people who can't be bothered to work, while many hardworking, working class families support conservative ideals. There are probably a lot of Labour supporters who want more of a communist Britain, but unfortunately for them Labour made being pro-Europe one of their core policies.

Wow, that's a whole new thread Adam.

 

[Adam W]

Companies can't actually send letters, it would have to be a person. They would still only do what they thought was best for the company.

Would they? Everyone at the top of a company is a company person and they don't go to work for their own financial reward?

Cameron made a speech where he spoke (stuipdly in my opinion) about past conflicts in Europe. It was Johnson who the same day stretched that to world war 3.

Yes, Cameron (pro-EU) warned that Brexit would lead to war and genocide.

Unless you're referencing a previous post, you definatly did not say that.

I definitely did. Post #413 on this thread. I copied and pasted it.

 

[Octopus]

Tony Blair wants to stay in - and he's filth rich!

 

[andyb]

I definitely did. Post #413 on this thread. I copied and pasted it.

I was referring to post 413 in my comment Adam, not your previous post re Brown.

 

[Midwest]

I'm gonna miss this thread on the 24th June.

 

[Octopus]

I'm gonna miss this thread on the 24th June.

and you think it will stop then?

The Scottish referendum was on the 18th September 2014 and Nicola et al remind us constantly that they want another vote.

the SNP are nothing more than a one trick pony!

 

[andyb]

and you think it will stop then?

The Scottish referendum was on the 18th September 2014 and Nicola et al remind us constantly that they want another vote.

the SNP are nothing more than a one trick pony!

I don't think this will end it either Murdoch, unless there's a large majority one way or another.
Farage has already stated that if there is a narrow remain vote he will start pushing for another referendum.

 

[Midwest]

Farage has already stated that if there is a narrow remain vote he will start pushing for another referendum.

I like that kind of thinking; lets keep voting on something until I get the result I want. He must be from the same school of thought as Sturgeon.

 

[Darkwood]

I like that kind of thinking; lets keep voting on something until I get the result I want. He must be from the same school of thought as Sturgeon.

Think about this ill judged comment from farage, only one person could respond it and it would be done as a public attack on farage but I argue that it was deliberately said as a tactical move to ensure if we did get a brexit by a small minority that the goverment wouldn't call a re-vote saying the vote was too close to call it a majority, the desperation for Cameron the EU and the big financial co' to remain part of the EU could see such a stunt pulled, in responding Cameron has now closed one of the options he had to argue the result was too close to be looked on as official majority.

 

[telectrix]

if it's 51-49 for out, that's a majority and cameron and his stay in goons will have to accept it.

 

[Midwest]

Have I got it wrong then? I thought it was just Farage saying if it was small majority for IN, then we should have another referendum?

 

[andyb]

Think about this ill judged comment from farage, only one person could respond it and it would be done as a public attack on farage but I argue that it was deliberately said as a tactical move to ensure if we did get a brexit by a small minority that the goverment wouldn't call a re-vote saying the vote was too close to call it a majority, the desperation for Cameron the EU and the big financial co' to remain part of the EU could see such a stunt pulled, in responding Cameron has now closed one of the options he had to argue the result was too close to be looked on as official majority.

Can't say that I agree DW. With or without Farage's comment, a small majority for out would be met with a call for another referendum fro Cameron.

 

[Darkwood]

Have I got it wrong then? I thought it was just Farage saying if it was small majority for IN, then we should have another referendum?

He did, I'm suggesting it was staged to get Cameron to react and close one of his opportunities if the OUT won by a narrow margin, take a small hit for a bigger agenda