Glad to see the domestic work is booming in the midlands

[Amp David]

Just had a news letter from My Local Electrician and saw the article in it.

Plug in to success with the UK


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[johnboy6083]

i hate how it says that he is a fully qualified electrician!! Is he swollocks! he is a domestic installer. He has been trained how to fit basic circuits in a domestic setting, which i bet are based in small college bays.
Ive got absolutely nothing against this fella bettering himself, but he has been told that he is a fully qualified sparks, when he isnt.

I get annoyed when I see time served sparks who are crap, but these smaller courses leave the trainees with a little knowledge to go and practice on the unsuspecting public.
How long til we have a domestic installer injure or kill someone through incompetence?

Rant over.

 

[oldtimer]

It also does not help that in the eyes of the public we have been marginilised with regards to electrics are easy peasy like Homes under the Hammer when the couple buying some properties the presenter says and i hear you got new skills for getting into the property game with the guy saying yes i did a short course and I am now a "fully qualified electrician" or the other one when the presenter was standing next to a MCB CU saying make sure you get a safety fuseboard like this fitted well I just about choked on my cornflakes that i wrote to them explaining they were putting out false information as the CU highlighted did not have RCD protection 6 months later i got the Journilistic Licence speech

 

[JulianC]

All our electricians have their own first aid kits .

I think I've got 3 rattling around in various recesses of me van. I really should make more of this unique selling point by the look of it. No wonder I've got next to bugger all work on

 

[johnboy6083]

I think that a lot of us trade on our skill and maybe we are a little behind in terms of salesmanship. If you can't beat your competitors on one item, then promote the ones you can. If what this bloke in the article says is true (regarding his workload), then maybe he's making up for lack of experience with his business/sales skills.

 

[oldtimer]

I think that a lot of us trade on our skill and maybe we are a little behind in terms of salesmanship. If you can't beat your competitors on one item, then promote the ones you can. If what this bloke in the article says is true (regarding his workload), then maybe he's making up for lack of experience with his business/sales skills.

I like your sales analogy so what you are saying we should be more proactive in selling things like Endownments, Pensions,Timeshare,PPL,Mobile phones,and be like the NICEIC sell course and training books and ditch that horrible electrical safety sh!t sounds like a plan where do I sign up.

If sales got involved in the moonlandings then we would be discussing how could NASA have lied to us right no instead of remembering Neil Armstrong

 

[jay sean]

I wish I could have done my apprenticeship in 17 days.
I think the decorators are the electricians, in that company

 

[oldtimer]

Well I said it before a customer was screaming at me for charging £400 for a CU change but happily paid the decorator £700 to paint her livingroom ie 2 days materials £70 thats £315 a day profit so as I think I am a very good decorator me thinks I may get qualified

 

[Guest55]

17 days to qualified ?
and heres me spending 5 years on and off at college.

sigh , what a waste of time
;-D

 

[oldtimer]

17 days to qualified ?
and heres me spending 5 years on and off at college.

sigh , what a waste of time
;-D

I take it more off than on lol

 

[mr murdock]

Well I said it before a customer was screaming at me for charging £400 for a CU change but happily paid the decorator £700 to paint her livingroom ie 2 days materials £70 thats £315 a day profit so as I think I am a very good decorator me thinks I may get qualified

if you can pi$$ you can paint

 

[oldtimer]

Its all about priorities ie I want a nice holiday a nice car a nice decorated house but whats the point of paying for a new CU when I cannot show it off

 

[johnboy6083]

i suppose what im saying Oldtimer, is that maybe a lot of electricians are not giving the business aspect of being a sole trader as much attention as the skill part. I dont run a business per se, i do the odd bit here and there along side my full time job, but if i wanted to go it alone, i know i couldnt just rely on my electrical skills, i would have to learn new skills, like how to sell jobs ect.

Im not condoning the 17day training ect, but im suggesting that maybe theres a reason they are doing so well (if that is the case).
I think that the fact that most of these people come from backgrounds other than trades/engineering means that maybe they are more customer focused or more adept at the business side of things.

 

[oldtimer]

I run a business and yes its a balance between promotion and the job you cannot do one without the other but its all in the word balance and it does not matter if you are selling beans or electrics the easy way is sales but theres the catch when this takes over a business it cannot be sustained hence why we are in the current economical state.

When asked an adviser said banking needs to become boring it wont make as much money but it will be safe and so will the country so they thanked him for his advise or in other words who cares the fast buck is king

 

[Engineer54]

I think you can take the whole thing as just another OTT advert for a training scam outfit, fishing for more fools to be caught in it's net!!

One minute he has a retail background, the next also offering decorating. If any of that advert is true about his staff, it'll be on the decorating side of things. This Wayne guy is like virtually all the others, he actually thinks he's an electrician, and it says a ''Good'' electrician too!!!

The guy is potentially dangerous to both himself and his customers. I bet none of these so-called multitude of customers know he is a 17 day trained installer, or that he was working/selling in a shop 3 weeks before he was in there house playing about with there electrical installation!! It bloody criminal that's what it is....

 

[Silly Sausage]

I'd like to know how much electrical theory is taught on these short courses...apart from V=IR & P=VI ?