help needed very quickly,

[leekemp85]

I have very nearly completed a rewire of a two bed-roomed bungalow, as this was a friend of mine I charged £1400 all in, not a bad price as it took two of us a week (I have been paid already). since I have not been there for the last week the plumber has told the lady that he has spoken to his electrician and I have broken every rule in the regs and has threaten to get an inspector in unless I give £500 cash back tomorrow.
Candie is in the middle so unsure if to believe the plumber or me.
the thing i have done wrong are.
not taken fly leads to the back boxes,
the boxes have not got grommets, this is something I always do but I did not have any on the first fix I was going to do it on second fix but my mate connected the sockets up I totally forgot about it (but is that against the regs?).
there are a few cables close to the surface all in the correct zones I have bonded/ undercoated with plaster, when the finished cote is applied they cables will be fully concealed.
and that is the minimum distance for a socket from a tap.
please be honest with your answers as I will print this off tonight and will be going around tomorrow with it tomorrow.
I have offered to correct the problems (for nothing) but have been told by the plumber that his electrician will do it and finish the work and testing for £500. and he doesnt want me in the house again just the money and the key.
please give your views asap, and what could happen if a inspector did come around to see the problems if I cant cant sort them I am currently with elesca.

thanks and sorry for the long post

 

[MarcT]

sounds like a plan

 

[leekemp85]

I connected the earth as it was, into the neutral henley block but its not bonded to the lead, I know ist not right, I told candie she needed a new PME weeks ago. the plumber and his mate says you can tag on to the lead. i know I could stick a rod in but I dont like doing it (unseen pipes and cables)
I will do the work that is on his pointless list but if elesca assessed the job and I had made my own earth I dont think I would get another year.

 

[DurhamSparky]

dont tag as it is not exactly the way is it and as you said elecsa wont be happy

install an earth electrode and dont let tweedle dumb and dee have any more chances to fault your work!

unhidden pipes etc..!! well you can normall see where they are !! look for the gas meter (outside) normally goes direct to pavement

outside stop cock / meter!!?? tend to follow direct line to house... just install close to the building chances are you will be fine!! if in doubt just knock it out!!!

 

[MarcT]

If you do decide instead to tag the cable yourself, make sure it's not Tenby type clamp (These are incompatible under BS951)
This is what the Electricity Board used to use
http://www.sicame.co.uk/Section8/8.05-8.06.pdf

 

[DurhamSparky]

i still say we have a wandering earth via the plumbers ---!!! that way lighting strikes fry him!!

 

[High Tower]

Credit where its due!

Im proud of all of you, from all of the forums i am involved in(car, m/cycle etc etc) this is by far the best!

Its fantastic that we can all be one tight consolidated unit, this is indicative of the industry that i want ours to be, the offers of support are a tribute to you all, and i to would hapily have jumped in the van and shot up from Brum!

im proud of this forum and proud to be part of it, its great to know that there are so many people with so much knowlege here and your all willing to help!

As for the suggestion of a wandering earth in the shape of a half arsed plumber, well im 6'6", 23 stone and would love the oppertunity to shove the tt rod up his **** "manually" . No mallet required

Aiden

 

[flukey]

i too am very proud of the way everyone has banded together

the more i read this post though, the more apparent it seems that this install isnt earthed or bonded and perhaps the plumber is onto something

sounds to me like the work has all been done and livened up with the absence of an incoming earth or bonding to water and gas

cant see why the inspector hasnt flagged it though

 

[leekemp85]

the bonding was mentioned with andys electrician, I did not write it down as I knew it needed doing. when I spoke to andy yesterday he was being alright about everything, its just going to be a pointless day doing some things that have tested out and finished.

 

[Spudnik]

Can you confirm that there is a main earth connected though?

 

[flukey]

hi jason, he has already said that it isnt

or is he saying its a PME as its connected to the neutral

 

[leekemp85]

hi jason, he has already said that it isnt

or is he saying its a PME as its connected to the neutral

when I started the job there was 6mm earth taged to the neutral henley block, thats how I left it as pme was going to be installed, I have now connected to a earth rod.

 

[DurhamSparky]

excellent...!!! 16mm cable, earth rod and bobs ya uncle and the plumbers a ****

bet you glad to get out of there..!! what you should have done was ring elecsa and tell them to explain to mr plumber who was right and wrong!!

 

[xraytek]

And if you do stick an earth rod up the plumbers --- dont forget to issue a minor works certificate

 

[Guest123]

And if you do stick an earth rod up the plumbers --- dont forget to issue a minor works certificate

EIC surely.......as you'll be altering the characteristics of the aforementioned "---".

 

[MarcT]

Can you take a discreet picture of said plumber, I think we should have a rogues gallery on EF, what d'ya reckon?