Local isolation

[067256]

Hello,
I am looking for clarification on a big kitchen refit that I am quoting for. Lots of built in appliances and the very fussy customer is against local isolation above work tops, in cupboards etc...
On the other side of the kitchen wall is the garage. Can I place all isolation switches in there or could this be an 'accessibility' issue?
Thank-you

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Why do you think local isolation is required?
It's a domestic kitchen, I assume, not a factory with dangerous machinery.

 

[067256]

They are integrated appliances so would like to install some kind of isolation for safety and maintenance purposes. Don't like the idea of just relying on an rcd to provide this

 

[Deleted member 26818]

RCD and MCB, or RCBO surely?
Well, there's no requirement for local isolation of domestic kitchen appliances.
It's possible to install a grid with switches for each appliance, some where in the kitchen, or even just outside if you prefer.
Just have to be careful not to overload the ring.

 

[067256]

Yep she's against a grid switch too! Even a nice shiny one!!
garage it is then. New DB with radials to appliances.
cheers

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Can you place the grid switch in a cupboard?

 

[cdavies33]

Grid switch all the way. I have a 12 gang in my kitchen.

Make sure it's in the kitchen also, had the washing machine on once and it went onto a fast spin... Literally white smoke started flying out of it. Ran like hell for the grid switch

 

[ipf]

One problem with no local isolation (or access, at least)....if a fault occurs on an appliance....you lose all on the circuit. Tell them that.

 

[067256]

This will be my next port of call in the morning. Although the customer is Scottish so probably won't be in the best of moods tomorrow. Lol.

 

[Engineer54]

I assume you mean local control switching of built in/under appliances and the like. If the customer doesn't want them don't provide them. Some customers are just bloody stupid and far more interested in the kitchens aesthetics than commonsense convenience of an actual workplace.

As for installing the control switches in the garage,or outside of the kitchen, that's just as bloody daft, if they are not conveniently located then pointless providing them at all....

 

[cdavies33]

Yep she's against a grid switch too! Even a nice shiny one!!
garage it is then. New DB with radials to appliances.
cheers

Against a grid switch?? Fussy women! Ha

 

[ipf]

This will be my next port of call in the morning. Although the customer is Scottish so probably won't be in the best of moods tomorrow. Lol.

He'd be in a worse mood with a useless kitchen than with a useless football team :icon12:

 

[Octopus]

One problem with no local isolation (or access, at least)....if a fault occurs on an appliance....you lose all on the circuit. Tell them that.

Precisely.

RCD board and no local isolation is asking for trouble, sooner or later.... especially in a kitchen!

 

[Engineer54]

These pratts listen far too much to these arty farty television interior designers, like the two queenies, rather than using their own commonsense or any practical advice.... Only to live to regret it at a later date when it's all too late!!

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Simple question:
For what reason do you believe local isolation would be required?
"Asking for trouble", "live to regret", sounds serious.