NICEIC Certification Scheme Max ZS allowed on NICEIC cert seems wrong?

[Anthony S]

Unfortunately I have no choice

I understand mate lol

The thing is with Napit and Storma doing 3rd party certs, you can't go wrong if the worst come to the worst.

Years ago I know who some one who would issue NIC certs for £50.

Its all gonna end in tears I reckon.

 

[davesparks]

My point being if you doing notifiable work and issuing certs you should be registered with a part p scheme.

Why should I be registered with a part P scam? I can comply with bs7671 including the issuing of certificates without registering with any scam. I challenge anyone to bring about a successful prosecution for carrying out electrical work which complies with bs7671!

 

[Leesparkykent]

Why not?

New builds, extensions, etc. plus one of the builders I work for who equates to about 40% of my work is an insurance specialist and wouldn't have none of it if I wasn't registered.

 

[Anthony S]

Why should I be registered with a part P scam? I can comply with bs7671 including the issuing of certificates without registering with any scam. I challenge anyone to bring about a successful prosecution for carrying out electrical work which complies with bs7671!

Won't happen and not notifying building control won't bring a prosecution either.

 

[trev]

My point being if you doing notifiable work and issuing certs you should be registered with a part p scheme anyway so why shove part P? I am just asking if anyone uses the NICEIC system online as I've just moved over from NAPIT. The debate on Part P itself should be discussed in another thread. It's got nothing to do with the subject in this thread. Personally I think Part P is a good thing. It's not that much of an expense and if your work is up to standard it's not a problem passong the assessment. Less fires caused by bad electrical installations speaks for itself.

The CPS operators and their vested interests are the reason why we are now looking at the farcical issuance of the regulation for "non combustible CUs".
The CPS operators and their vested interests are the reason we have armies of under trained, under qualified monkeys masquerading as electricians causing CU fires in the first place.
The CPS operators and their vested interests are responsible for forcing these under qualified, under trained monkeys on an unsuspecting public who are sold the lie that anyone with a badge is up to standard and anyone who has not is a cowboy.
Part P is a bad joke. Had it been your or my child who got a belt (perish the thought) then it would never have happened, it was rushed through as a knee jerk reaction to an MPs daughter being on the receiving end of a fistfull of current following some dodgy DIY. Please explain how Part P has made the industry better because I, and thousands of other electricians up and down the country can't see it.

 

[telectrix]

My point being if you doing notifiable work and issuing certs you should be a fully qualified electrician with the knowledge and experience to carry out electrical works, not some half-trained Electrical Trainee, plumber,kitchen fitter, or builder who's managed to pass an open book exam on how to look up a regulation. so shove part P.


​corrected that for you.

 

[spark 68]

.....Less fires caused by bad electrical installations speaks for itself.

Is that so ?, then if that's the case why the up and coming reg in AMD3 wrt consumer units ?

 

[davesparks]

New builds, extensions, etc. plus one of the builders I work for who equates to about 40% of my work is an insurance specialist and wouldn't have none of it if I wasn't registered.

Then you may have a case to take him to court if you refuses to employ you on that basis.

 

[Anthony S]

New builds, extensions, etc. plus one of the builders I work for who equates to about 40% of my work is an insurance specialist and wouldn't have none of it if I wasn't registered.

Now all my work for a builder, new, refurbs etc, Building Control and outside Building Control accept my Electrical Certificates with a photo copy of my JIB card with the 17th & 2391.

 

[Clark3169]

Why should I be registered with a part P scam? I can comply with bs7671 including the issuing of certificates without registering with any scam. I challenge anyone to bring about a successful prosecution for carrying out electrical work which complies with bs7671!

Because you need to notify. I love how people call it a scam. It's regulated and safer.

 

[davesparks]

Won't happen and not notifying building control won't bring a prosecution either.

I can notify building control without the aid of as am if it is necessary, just phone them up and speak to them!

 

[trev]

if your work is up to standard it's not a problem

And therein lies the problem. The various operators do not care about the standard of installs. They care about the cheques clearing, that has been proven time after time after time. The NIC themselves could not give the parliamentary enquiry figures when asked how many people had failed assessments in the last year. They couldn't give numbers when asked how many they'd kicked out for shoddy workmanship

 

[Plonker 3]

Because you need to notify. I love how people call it a scam. It's regulated and safer.

Really, you have proof of that?

 

[Clark3169]

Is that so ?, then if that's the case why the up and coming reg in AMD3 wrt consumer units ?

I'll tell you why... because now all fires are more accurately reported to the home office about their exact cause. General numbers of electrical fires are down but a high percentage of fires caused by electrical installations begin and spread from plastic consumer units.

 

[Clark3169]

Really, you have proof of that?

Proof of what?