Neutrals at switches

[Guest 004]

Went to a job today, twin and earth, and it had been wired 2 plate, which of course meant that all the switches had the neutral taken to them.

WTF, if I had done that in my apprenticeship I would have been kicked off site.

Is this how things are done now, god I hope not.

 

[malcolmsanford]

I think a shed load would constitute having to screw the switch onto the box with a hammer and a piece of wood and then getting the apprentice to ..........ok son switch it on

 

[Electricalserv]

You are just talking rubish now. As stated clearly earlier if designed correctly and done correctly it will not be a case of a "shed load of cables". Or I could say to you joining a "shed load" of cables at a light point is bad practice.

Whatever you rambling maniac, I was merely trying to continue this dead thread with abit of jest, yet you and IQ bite. Sad really

 

[Hawk81]

Whatever you rambling maniac, I was merely trying to continue this dead thread with abit of jest, yet you and IQ bite. Sad really

Firstly it was not funny and secondly I do not take kindly to your personal insults.

 

[Electricalserv]

Firstly it was not funny and secondly I do not take kindly to your personal insults.

Get a life bud

 

[Hawk81]

Get a life bud

Your jokes and insults are very helpful to this thread. Keep them coming.

 

[Electricalserv]

Your jokes and insults are very helpful to this thread. Keep them coming.

Your posts are very helpful aswell. For the fact they have been done and done and done. Move on the threads dead.

 

[IQ Electrical]

Your posts are very helpful aswell. For the fact they have been done and done and done. Move on the threads dead.

So you've seen the poll then!

Your powers of debate are formidable, I'll think twice before ever taking you on in a battle of words!

 

[Electricalserv]

So you've seen the poll then!

Your powers of debate are formidable, I'll think twice before ever taking you on in a battle of words!

What are you talking about...Ignore....

 

[Hawk81]

Your posts are very helpful aswell. For the fact they have been done and done and done. Move on the threads dead.

If you look at my posts you will find likes on them so others obviously do find them useful. More than can be said for your posts. Hy not take your own advice and jog on if you think the thread is dead and leave it to those with a serious input.

 

[morph]

the answer is 7
with a 47 mm box

anyone seen Harry ?

 

[Robinson]

In fairness to Mrenigma I do seem to recall from my apprenticeship...(30 yrs ago!) that neutrals in switches were always considered bad practice.....however there has been a general change of view on this in the trade AND in the NIC...mainly I believe because nobody has ever been able to come up with a reason why it's bad practice.

Yeah same here, i was never actually told at college it was bad, although never taught to do. BUT on site the boys always said only if really needed as bad practice. That was 20years ago at BBC TV studios. Still I go with Mrenigma, there has been from what i have seen a change of views probably because there isnt actually any regs to say why, and i think due to the type of fittings and designs we are seeing today it has become alot more practical. I myself do what every way suits the job. All the new builds i have done in last 2 years for few companies have done N's at Sw. everytime. nobody said a thing, the workmanship on these jobs was floorless, really really good tidy instals. So i cannot see and didnt see one reason to think otherwise, and certainly wouldnt judge a sparks but using this technique. As long as it was not detrimental to the safety and reliability of installation.

 

[Electricalserv]

If you look at my posts you will find likes on them so others obviously do find them useful. More than can be said for your posts. Hy not take your own advice and jog on if you think the thread is dead and leave it to those with a serious input.

Well done you....You've made a few friends then. Great

 

[Robinson]

LOL ! Bit late on this one arent I ......

 

[Hawk81]

Well done you....You've made a few friends then. Great

Its not about making friends but rather making a decent post that is relivent to the thread.

 

[TPES]

This is a very interesting topic, I can't believe I've missed this one...

I can't believe it's even being spoke about as a genuine issue? how could this possibly be a problem to anyone, there is far more benefits to having the N at the switch than in the ceiling fitting. Common sense to take N to switch if you ask me..

One example is an outside light to be added at the back door in kitchen, far easier to get my L & N off the switch on the backside of the door to feed my new light than have the carpet and floor boards up above trying to find the neutral from a light fitting..
Only time i take L & SL only to switch is when I'm on a rewire and fishing down wall to switch as to not damage wall with a chase.