UK Niceic Assesment

[banny07]

Hi all. My first niceic assesment for joining is coming soon. I want to show my friends house where I installed new fuse board and installed new smoke alarm circuit. My question is what should I fill in sesign and construction section? should I leave it blank?
The house have no cooker or shower circuit only three final circuits which have 3, 5 and 7 double sockets as well as two lighting circuits with 7 and 8 lighting points .Third circuit has only three smoke/heat alarms. Maximum demand will be around 26Amps?
Any advice will be very helpful. Thanks in advance

 

[banny07]

Method 100 will be mostly what you want as it always has lower CCC than method C (for the chased in wall part).
(If insulation has been topped up in loft it might be 101. )

I think I have to choose one of the following code as it is given on the certificate I am to use. Please do correct me if it is wrong. Thanks

REFERENCE CODES FOR TYPES OF WIRING​	A – PVC/PVC CABLES​	B - PVC CABLES IN METALLIC CONDUIT​	C - PVC CABLES IN NON- METALLIC CONDUIT​	D - PVC CABLES IN METALLIC TRUNKING​
E - PVC CABLES IN NON-METALLIC TRUNKING​	F - PVC/SWA CABLES​	G - XLPE/SWA CABLES​	H - MINERAL-INSULATED CABLES​	O – Other State:

 

[timhoward]

Ah that is for the Wiring Type column and for normal T+E cables will be A
You were talking in the correct terms for the Reference Method column before.
By the way there is a John Ward you tube video on electrical installation certificates which might be worth you having a gander at as you want to avoid common errors particularly on this one!

 

[loz2754]

I think I have to choose one of the following code as it is given on the certificate I am to use. Please do correct me if it is wrong. Thanks

REFERENCE CODES FOR TYPES OF WIRING​	A – PVC/PVC CABLES​	B - PVC CABLES IN METALLIC CONDUIT​	C - PVC CABLES IN NON- METALLIC CONDUIT​	D - PVC CABLES IN METALLIC TRUNKING​
E - PVC CABLES IN NON-METALLIC TRUNKING​	F - PVC/SWA CABLES​	G - XLPE/SWA CABLES​	H - MINERAL-INSULATED CABLES​	O – Other State:

This is cable type, not installation reference method.
For PVC cables with PVC sheath it is type A.

Installation method refers to the conditions that the cable passes through, and the method you record is the worse set of conditions.
For PVC/PVC flat cables, the methods are given as 100, 101, 102, or 103. They're in the regs book, and your assessor may want to know that you're able to find where to look.

 

[banny07]

Ah that is for the Wiring Type column and for normal T+E cables will be A

For PVC/PVC flat cables, the methods are given as 100, 101, 102, or 103

 

[catdog1121]

Thanks for advice. They gave me assesment date two month after taking money from me.They offered me to join Approved contractor scheme but I do not have enough work/jobs to show them.
Another information I need is about referance method. should it be "A" or "100". Thanks agan guys.

I doubt there is much if any difference to domestic installer or Approved electrician, its more about what qualifications you had.. I think they understand when first starting you might have limited jobs.. I used my own house with new feed out to a shed when I first registered. They were fine with that.. Like others have said they want your money..

Make sure you have all the required books and your MFT is in calibration.

If you ever need help filling out the forms take a look at BS7671 or onsite guide I think at least one of them it has it filled out as an example so you can use that to understand what is expected.

 

[banny07]

Sorry for the confusion guys . On the certificate there is reference method coloum but underneath it mentions the codes for types of wiring. That's why I was confused between "A" and "100". Please correct me. I do apologise if I am asking too many questions. Thanks

 

[loz2754]

That schedule is missing a column for cable type

 

[loz2754]

Sorry for the confusion guys . On the certificate there is reference method coloum but underneath it mentions the codes for types of wiring. That's why I was confused between "A" and "100". Please correct me. I do apologise if I am asking too many questions. Thanks

No apology necessary. We've all been there!

 

[banny07]

That schedule is missing a column for cable type

That schedule is missing a column for cable type

That mean I can put "100" in the reference method coloum for all the circuit.Thanks

 

[banny07]

No apology necessary. We've all been there!

Thanks a lot! I have had a few sleepless nights thinking about it.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

IF you go to electrafrom, you can do certificates at cost of £1 each, it has drop down menus and options for each box where required, might find it helpful rather than a editable document.

 

[banny07]

IF you go to electrafrom, you can do certificates at cost of £1 each, it has drop down menus and options for each box where required, might find it helpful rather than a editable document.

Bought a software from ebay with different colours (black,blue, green and purple)certificates and digital version of reg books.I also have hard copy of Regs book. Are these okay to use for time being until I get registerd with NICEIC ?Thanks

 

[timhoward]

Bought a software from ebay with different colours (black,blue, green and purple)certificates and digital version of reg books.I also have hard copy of Regs book. Are these okay to use for time being until I get registerd with NICEIC ?Thanks

There are some unscrupulous folk on eBay who package up some freely available OpenOffice templates plus an installer for OpenOffice (open source and free) and charge for it. There are probably some legitimate options on sale too. Without more info it's hard to say but it will probably be fine. I think most assessors would take the long term view anyway that you will shortly have access to an online tool to create NICEIC branded certificates.

If it concerns you then I'd agree that Electraform is the no brainer choice, as for a minimal outlay of £5 for 5 credits you get a nice web interface (phone friendly too) to create certificates that are fairly decent.
There is also Megger Form Filler which is free but basic, adequate but the test results are quite small to read when printed.

I'd finish off the one you've started now though.

 

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Electraform is worth using if you aren't doing many certs (and even if you are as well). Worth noting all costs are now +VAT though, hardly a deal breaker for its 5 credits for £5+VAT (£6)

 

[banny07]

I'd finish off the one you've started now though.

I managed to test and fill a certificate, which I going to upload. Guys please have a look and advise me if you find some mistakes. The consumer board has a SPD pre installed which I don't know how to test. I will use Elecraformin the end as this is temporary. Thanks in advance.