UK Niceic Assesment

[banny07]

Hi all. My first niceic assesment for joining is coming soon. I want to show my friends house where I installed new fuse board and installed new smoke alarm circuit. My question is what should I fill in sesign and construction section? should I leave it blank?
The house have no cooker or shower circuit only three final circuits which have 3, 5 and 7 double sockets as well as two lighting circuits with 7 and 8 lighting points .Third circuit has only three smoke/heat alarms. Maximum demand will be around 26Amps?
Any advice will be very helpful. Thanks in advance

 

[westward10]

Remove all LIMs from your schedule.

 

[banny07]

Remove all LIMs from your schedule.

There are some ceiling fans(with light combined) in the circuits.It will be difficult to disconnect them. Is it okay to swich them off when doing IR? or just leave LIM blank as previously suggested? Thanks

 

[westward10]

There are some ceiling fans(with light combined) in the circuits.It will be difficult to disconnect them. Is it okay to swich them off when doing IR? or just leave LIM blank as previously suggested? Thanks

Just IR test to earth leave the rest blank. Don't faff about disconnecting anything it is pointless just show your tests to earth.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Here is updated installation certificate guys! Please have a look and point out any area I need to improve.Thanks again.

@banny07 , mind if I ask where you got the EIC form from? I use electraform, which gives a professional looking cert, but is tediously slow to use, has a lot of unnecessary extra bits in it, and has glitches. What you have used looks nice and simple

 

[timhoward]

@banny07 , mind if I ask where you got the EIC form from? I use electraform, which gives a professional looking cert, but is tediously slow to use, has a lot of unnecessary extra bits in it, and has glitches. What you have used looks nice and simple

I think he got it from ebay.
I believe the original source is here:

Electrical Installation Certificate

In order to support the electrical community we are providing FREE blank Electrical Installation Certificate forms that can be filled on your PC or can be printed and filled in by hand. PDF version also available for free.

www.electricaltestcertificates.co.uk

You need openoffice for those ones (also free).
I think they have PDF versions too.

 

[banny07]

@banny07 , mind if I ask where you got the EIC form from? I use electraform, which gives a professional looking cert, but is tediously slow to use, has a lot of unnecessary extra bits in it, and has glitches. What you have used looks nice and simple

I bought it off e*bay for about £15, comes with 4 diferent colours of certs.reports,reg books etc.on usb stick.

 

[banny07]

Electraform is worth using if you aren't doing many certs (and even if you are as well). Worth noting all costs are now +VAT though, hardly a deal breaker for its 5 credits for £5+VAT (£6)

There is a "measured kA" coloum in test result section on electaform. Could you please information on that. Thanks in advance.

 

[timhoward]

There is a "measured kA" coloum in test result section on electaform. Could you please information on that. Thanks in advance.

I think it's next to the measured Zs, and it's simply a space to optionally record the prospective fault current that the Zs would allow. So if you had a Zs of 0.80 ohms the tester would probably also tell you a PFC of 300 Amps (based on a measured voltage of 240, so ohms law, 240 / 0.80 = 300 ). So if you wanted to in this example you could write 0.3 KA in there.
I leave it blank most of the time.

 

[banny07]

I think it's next to the measured Zs, and it's simply a space to optionally record the prospective fault current that the Zs would allow. So if you had a Zs of 0.80 ohms the tester would probably also tell you a PFC of 300 Amps (based on a measured voltage of 240, so ohms law, 240 / 0.80 = 300 ). So if you wanted to in this example you could write 0.3 KA in there.
I leave it blank most of the time.

Thanks a lot! My mft did show this value but I did not note it so I will leave it blank at the moment but will note it next time. I am also struggling upload my tester detail, It shows in admin section but not in "circuits and test result" page. Thanks

 

[timhoward]

Thanks a lot! My mft did show this value but I did not note it so I will leave it blank at the moment but will note it next time. I am also struggling upload my tester detail, It shows in admin section but not in "circuits and test result" page. Thanks

I remember that problem Go to Admin > Engineers, add yourself, and specify which tester you are using in the Test Equipment section. I think you might also have to assign the job to yourself, then it all behaves as expected.

 

[banny07]

I remember that problem Go to Admin > Engineers, add yourself, and specify which tester you are using in the Test Equipment section. I think you might also have to assign the job to yourself, then it all behaves as expected.

I spend almost two hours to find a way to assign the job without any success. Any advice please

 

[timhoward]

I spend almost two hours to find a way to assign the job without any success. Any advice please

I apologise if this step was not needed.
In my setup, I have added the tester in Admin > Equipment.
I have added myself as an engineer in Admin > Engineer. I have also told the system that I have that tester, again in Admin > Engineer > Test Equipment

Then when I open a certificate, when I get to the "Boards and Circuits" page, you need to tell it which Engineer did the testing:

Click Edit Board, scroll down to this bit:

Then when you choose yourself, the tester should appear too:

Does that help?

 

[banny07]

I apologise if this step was not needed.
In my setup, I have added the tester in Admin > Equipment.
I have added myself as an engineer in Admin > Engineer. I have also told the system that I have that tester, again in Admin > Engineer > Test Equipment

Then when I open a certificate, when I get to the "Boards and Circuits" page, you need to tell it which Engineer did the testing:
View attachment 89213
Click Edit Board, scroll down to this bit:
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Then when you choose yourself, the tester should appear too:

View attachment 89215

Does that help?

Thanks again. It does appear now. I am very grateful for your help.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

I think he got it from ebay.
I believe the original source is here:

Electrical Installation Certificate

In order to support the electrical community we are providing FREE blank Electrical Installation Certificate forms that can be filled on your PC or can be printed and filled in by hand. PDF version also available for free.

www.electricaltestcertificates.co.uk

You need openoffice for those ones (also free).
I think they have PDF versions too.

Unfortunately the forms from that link are still 17th edition. @banny07 's are 18th edition.

 

[banny07]

Unfortunately the forms from that link are still 17th edition. @banny07 's are 18th edition.

The schedule is missing a column for cable type, I am not sure if it is stll acceptable or not.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

The schedule is missing a column for cable type, I am not sure if it is stll acceptable or not.

Cable type isn't in the model forms, so it's fine

 

[banny07]

Cable type isn't in the model forms, so it's fine

It is in the regs book but not in the OSG.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

It is in the regs book but not in the OSG.

I don't see that in my regs book, which column?

 

[banny07]

I don't see that in my regs book, which column?

conductor details column page 483.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

conductor details column page 483.

there's ref method, live CSA and CPC CSA. Nothing about the cable type there. Column 3 has the protective device type, is that what you're looking at?

 

[loz2754]

Well I never!
No column for number of points(which I knew about).
But didn't know about no column for cable type...
EDASD