Replacement shower

[keniff]

If your replacing a shower like for like power wise, are you under any obligation to supply rcd for this? As no alteration has been made to the circuit and no change of opd has been done?

 

[keniff]

Yes there were a few posts earlier about rcd mentioned in the instructions but not stating it had to be only should, as I said I'm going to quote for rcd but wanted to see others views as I'm gonna be priced out by the next guy who just swaps it over! Then says I'm the crook making more work than needed. Although ill be making it safer

 

[GLENNSPARK]

They are mentioned in some manufacturers' instructions, but in those instances it's only as a recommendation that one be installed.
As can be seen from the quotes I posted in my earlier post.

and so common sense has to take precident here....cost has to come secondry to safety spin...

 

[electric will]

Shower will probably be ok without rcd, as long as the cast iron bath tub your stood in isn't bonded! :sad3:

 

[GLENNSPARK]

wont help your cause under fault though will

 

[Sparkyphill]

and so common sense has to take precident here....cost has to come secondry to safety spin...

Agreed but as I said on another thread certain jobs are price sensitive, yes you can take the moral high ground and spec every job up "the way it should be done" but if that just makes you a busy fool running around all day pricing work you won't win what's the point ?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Agreed but as I said on another thread certain jobs are price sensitive, yes you take the moral high ground and spec every job up "the way it should be done" but if that just makes you a busy fool running around all day pricing work you won't win what's the point ?

i hope your not saying that cost is the primary directive here...

 

[Sparkyphill]

i hope your not saying that cost is the primary directive here...

no but it's a factor is it not

 

[electric will]

wont help your cause under fault though will

better rcd the shower then! Was just messing about with the bonding on a cast iron bath!
anyhow, under fault? where's ya other exposed conductive part? Most showers are plastic anyway!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

no but it's a factor is it not

indeed it is....but the long and short of it is that anything you do will come back to bite ya if it aint rite...

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better rcd the shower then! Was just messing about with the bonding on a cast iron bath!
anyhow, under fault? where's ya other exposed conductive part? Most showers are plastic anyway!

and if you attempt to get out of the bath?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

and so common sense has to take precident here....cost has to come secondry to safety spin...

So in a situation where BS7671 does not require an RCD be fitted, a situation where for the purposes of an EICR would only warrent a code C3, common sense however dictates that an RCD be fitted?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

So in a situation where BS7671 does not require an RCD be fitted, a situation where for the purposes of an EICR would only warrent a code C3, common sense however dictates that an RCD be fitted?

yes yes..we know that spin...but were talkin install here...not ECRs

 

[electric will]

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and if you attempt to get out of the bath?

good point, well presented!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

dont forget as well will that voltage can `track` over wet/moist surfaces...

 

[Deleted member 26818]

yes yes..we know that spin...but were talkin install here...not ECRs

No we are talking replacement of equipment, something that a MEIWC may be used to document.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

No we are talking replacement of equipment, something that a MEIWC may be used to document.

look....stop being pedantic spin...you knew what i meant...