Ring vs Radial

[ipf]

It has, and I am.

Beam me up Widdler

 

[Sparky Ninja]

Remember the whole of the wall power accessory catalogue is based on and around the Ring Final Circuit!!!!

Makes little difference to an effectively designed radial system.

 

[sedgy34]

Ok fellas,ladies!
got a new big house soon to do with 4 levels,basement, groundfloor,1st floor,2ndfloor(loft)
Might do power like this
ground floor 2.5 radial,&a kitchen ring DB is on ground floor
basement 4mm radial
1st floor 4mm radial
2nd floor 4mm radial
we have wired loads of newbuilds etc nothing to do with being in experienced, nothing to do with not knowing how to test a ring etc
simply cause my design and I will be happy knowing upon testing the test results will be ok,also Easy for testing.

 

[rich.250]

My biggest hate with both is when people just use 2.5!! And don't take de rating into account.
The amount of insulation being put in now, it is hard to avoid using 4mm......

 

[Guest55]

10. If the CPC breaks at some point you still have the CPC from the other leg.

and if its a break in the L or N then you have a fault which remains undetected as all points remain working but all the while leaving potential for certain sections of cable to exceed their normal current rating , at the very least shortning the expected lifespan of the cable.

11. You have the option at a later date to split the ring to make 2 20A radials for whatever reason.


well splitting a ring can be a total faff if the sockets arent close together , nowhere near as flexible as being able to add a point from any other point as you can with a radial - your comment just reinforces my earlier advantage.

12. With a ring you can draw a similar current using less ways on the board.

hardly a problem when sparks are banging in 10 way boards in 2-3 bed properties.
anyway , a greater division of circuits reduces inconvience when a circuit trips.




I said I'd add an extra 1 - turns out I found an extra 3!
That said, I'm not against radials, but they need to be used in an appropriate situation and not blindly used because they're 'the modern way of doing things'.

Sorry for the delay in reply - I went to the pub with my mate instead of sitting at home talking shop on the internet, although to be fair he's a spark as well so we did talk shop.

so you came up with 3 pro's for rings ?
:-D

 

[Adam W]

so you can up with 3 pro's for rings ?
:-D

3 more than you.

 

[Guest55]

Makes little difference to an effectively designed radial system.

agreed.
electrical appliances sold in the UK are designed to work from a 230v / 50hz 3 pin socket.
how the power gets to the socket makes no odds.

 

[imago]

Rings and radials, rather than rings or radials for me. ie whatever's appropriate for the circuit requirements with a nod to possible future use or changes.

Saying either of them is appropriate for use in all circumstances is nonsense IMHO.

 

[Guest55]

still 6 short of my 9 lol.

of course both methods should be considered on the merits of each job

 

[Adam W]

3 less than my 12 lol.

 

[Guest55]

3 less than my 12 lol.

no , you argued against my 9 but only listed 3 of your own.
nevermind , 2nd place is a good effort.

 

[Adam W]

no , you argued against my 9 but only listed 3 of your own.
nevermind , 2nd place is a good effort.

How can you claim to have won when you didn't come up with any valid points?

 

[electric will]

Biff and Adam are you still arguing about this?? Suppose it's kept ya out of bother for a few hours though

 

[DaveyD]

Let 'em sort it out in the "ring" ... no? anyone? .....

 

[kingeri]

As someone said its just an extra leg back.its a stupid topic . No offence poster

Offence taken. That was a very stupid remark. This is a perfectly valid topic. If you don't wish to contribute then either don't read it or bugger off.