Terminating SWA with Wylex REC Supply Isolators

[Michaelwgroves]

I need to terminate 16mm SWA 2 core cable in Wylex REC Supply Isolators. Going to be using armour for earth. Whats the best thing to do with the earth. I have 12 of these to install. The only idea I have is to terminate armour on steel trunking then run 2 cores into Wylex REC Supply Isolators. Lastly connect earth back to intake. I'm sure there is a better way, I dont want to use steel trunking unless I have to?

See link below for Wylex REC Supply Isolators
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/Wylex/WYREC2.pdf

 

[High Tower]

I dont remember meters being mentioned, How are you intending on doing this?, it opens a whole can of worms now. are you having your own meters installed and charging your tenants yourself or are you intending on having prepay meters, if its pre pay then the DNN must install them and their own Ryefield to supply them, and that will be big cost!.

If you are having meters in the switch room then you are back to Ryefield - meter - switch fuse - galv - swa and with all of that you will need a switch room the size of a bedsit for all of that 12 x over

if you are having the meters in the bedsits then the hager solution will work. you can get cu's to go in the bedsits that have meters built into them, so it would be
Cutout - hager - swa - cu with integral meter.

 

[Octopus]

I dont remember meters being mentioned, How are you intending on doing this?, it opens a whole can of worms now. are you having your own meters installed and charging your tenants yourself or are you intending on having prepay meters, if its pre pay then the DNN must install them and their own Ryefield to supply them, and that will be big cost!.

If you are having meters in the switch room then you are back to Ryefield - meter - switch fuse - galv - swa and with all of that you will need a switch room the size of a bedsit for all of that 12 x over

if you are having the meters in the bedsits then the hager solution will work. you can get cu's to go in the bedsits that have meters built into them, so it would be
Cutout - hager - swa - cu with integral meter.

Brilliant. People think sparking is so, so easy! This is one enormous can of worms

 

[Michaelwgroves]

his name on test cert your name on design and install ! LOL

No, his name on install, he's got to have the final word. But I will have a big input as you can see. Just to confirm I am not using a one man band but a large company based in Kent with several engineers.
Anyone that has worked with the council knows there is no cutting corners.

 

[Octopus]

I've tried to ignore your constant nit picking which adds no value to this thread, but your last comment is too much. If you care to research compulsory HMO licensing you will discover it is impossible to get a licence without a certificate.

If you have anything to add to this thread of value please do so, but otherwise please keep your negativity to yourself.

Its all very well doing research but you've said your sparky (if he exists) is on holiday. Leave it to the sparky to quote you for a price and then if you're not happy get a couple more in to quote.

If you are not happy with the imput from the members here maybe you should try other forums.

 

[High Tower]

Brilliant. People think sparking is so, so easy! This is one enormous can of worms

Like i say i dont mind helping with selection of the appropriate equipment best for the application. at the end of the day thats what were here for!, but i stand by my opinion that it would take a half decent spark to make a decent job of it!

 

[Michaelwgroves]

Its all very well doing research but you've said your sparky (if he exists) is on holiday. Leave it to the sparky to quote you for a price and then if you're not happy get a couple more in to quote.

If you are not happy with the imput from the members here maybe you should try other forums.

No, just you, you seem to be on a mission, not sure what your objective is but you seem to be alone.
You are free to post your opinion but you just don't stop.

 

[High Tower]

No, just you, you seem to be on a mission, not sure what your objective is but you seem to be alone.
You are free to post your opinion but you just don't stop.

Ok I think we have established that this is not a DIY job and that you are and rightly so going to get professionals to install it. this is part of what the forum is here for to advise people to make the correct choices. We are not here to instruct people how to do the job themselves.

 

[Michaelwgroves]

I dont remember meters being mentioned, How are you intending on doing this?, it opens a whole can of worms now. are you having your own meters installed and charging your tenants yourself or are you intending on having prepay meters, if its pre pay then the DNN must install them and their own Ryefield to supply them, and that will be big cost!.

If you are having meters in the switch room then you are back to Ryefield - meter - switch fuse - galv - swa and with all of that you will need a switch room the size of a bedsit for all of that 12 x over

if you are having the meters in the bedsits then the hager solution will work. you can get cu's to go in the bedsits that have meters built into them, so it would be
Cutout - hager - swa - cu with integral meter.

This thread has moved around at bit, sorry I should have probably gave full details at the begining. Your paragraph 2 is what I'm looking to do.
I'll reasearch Ryefield tomorrow, maybe i'll give them a call. I'll post again tomorrow with an update.
i want to keep all meters together to aid management as I am working with a charity and they will be handling this. Trying to get into every flat would be a nightmare for them.

 

[Michaelwgroves]

Ok I think we have established that this is not a DIY job and that you are and rightly so going to get professionals to install it. this is part of what the forum is here for to advise people to make the correct choices. We are not here to instruct people how to do the job themselves.

Thank you, exactly what's happening, just to add building control are also involved.

Now back to the job in hand.

 

[Octopus]

Thank you, exactly what's happening, just to add building control are also involved.

Now back to the job in hand.

Time to employ a proper sparky. lol couldn't resist.

 

[Guest55]

No, T&E submains in flats isnt a good idea, because you then have the issue of discrimination between the sub RCD and the RCD's in the CU.

youre assuming the t&e subs will be buried in the wall to require rcd protection , but with 12 in total its fairly likely they'll be surface fixed.

anyways , back to the OP .....
if i was using the services of a qualified spark i'd be sitting down with him to hear the options he recommends , so why go into the details of the job on a forum ?
why do we need to walk you through the job if you've got a guy on site ?

 

[High Tower]

This thread has moved around at bit, sorry I should have probably gave full details at the begining. Your paragraph 2 is what I'm looking to do.
I'll reasearch Ryefield tomorrow, maybe i'll give them a call. I'll post again tomorrow with an update.
i want to keep all meters together to aid management as I am working with a charity and they will be handling this. Trying to get into every flat would be a nightmare for them.

Ok to do this then you are going to need a 12 way Ryefield http://www.lucyswitchgear.com/media/2396/cut-out-brochure.pdf (page 12)

12 x credit meters something like Electric Meter | Electricity Meters Ex Works from CL Refurbishments

about 100m of each 25mm tail

and 12 switch fuses http://www.electrium.co.uk/Wylex2007.pdf (page 33) NHSW3100

 

[High Tower]

youre assuming the t&e subs will be buried in the wall to require rcd protection , but with 12 in total its fairly likely they'll be surface fixed.

anyways , back to the OP .....
if i was using the services of a qualified spark i'd be sitting down with him to hear the options he recommends , so why go into the details of the job on a forum ?
why do we need to walk you through the job if you've got a guy on site ?

Quite possibly but i think the chances are that it would have to pass through walls floors and ceilings at some point.

 

[Guest55]

Quite possibly but i think the chances are that it would have to pass through walls floors and ceilings at some point.

still doesnt req rcd protection to pass through a wall or routes in a floor void , only if buried in a wall.

 

[High Tower]

still doesnt req rcd protection to pass through a wall or routes in a floor void , only if buried in a wall.

Im not sating your wrong mate but i dont think i would feel to comfy running 12 T&E subs through a building with no RCD protection, i just think a SWA is a better idea. but as i said before that is only my opinion and preference.