TNS or TNCS supply?

[swifters]

Hi all, please see attached? TNS or TNCS supply? Looks like it could be a TNCS but no notice to say that it is?

 

[swifters]

It's the lack of any other cables connected to that Earth terminal that amuses me!

Yes, there's a 6mm earth going to a lead water main at the moment!

 

[Silly Sausage]

Yes, there's a 6mm earth going to a lead water main at the moment!

Hahaha...that's OK then, who needs a Main Earth!

A bit of work to be done at this place then?! £££s

 

[swifters]

The older wooden fuse boxes will often have a separate Bakelite back panel

Whats the bet,if I was to give you a large soldering iron as a sort of substitute for a overheating cable and you were to burn away till you finished writing the unsatisfactory Eicr,any damage,scorch marks or other would be negligeable or not evident

Then if we were to substitute "old wooden Wylex" for spanking new "modern plastic rubbish",the survival rate would probably be extremely low

The Niceic regs have struck a cord once again,

!Flaming skirting boards Batman" said Tony Cable in his most dire of hysterical shouts

There are some good points there and whenever I try to get a fire going in my woodburning stove with a gas torch I wonder how an earth an accidental fire can ever happen at all, but they do! somehow through murphys law!

All the wooden fuseboxes I've seen don't have any special "bakelite" coating. If there are woodshavings left around etc. then I could see how one could start.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I can see into the future.

E54 will be commenting on this thread soon.

 

[swifters]

Hahaha...that's OK then, who needs a Main Earth!

A bit of work to be done at this place then?! £££s

Indeed, but the vast majority of the cables tested up like new. Ring mains spot on and low Zs readings.

 

[Guitarist]

Yes, there's a 6mm earth going to a lead water main at the moment!

Disconnected for the photo, or connected behind the board?
What kind of state is the rest of the installation in, apart from the Zs readings being good?

 

[guest119]

You dont need to join the n and e lead together although it is a good way.
Just swop the n and e leads. IE test once with all the leads where they belong and again with the n and e probes swopped.
The instrument readings can then be compared.


Sockets on the skirting tend to get f....d by the hoover.

Boydy

 

[pete555]

Id say Tns

I agree

 

[Flanders]

You dont need to join the n and e lead together although it is a good way.
Just swop the n and e leads. IE test once with all the leads where they belong and again with the n and e probes swopped.
The instrument readings can then be compared.


Sockets on the skirting tend to get f....d by the hoover.

Boydy

I agree thought exactly the same thing on my way home

 

[trev]

It has been asked already but, WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING TAKING THAT COVER OFF!?

Have you got the slightest idea of
A You're not supposed to touch the DNO's toys
B How stupidly dangerous it is to do that
C How you are supposed to conduct what are pretty basic test in a domestic environment
D That it's a good idea to read the manual and familiarise yourself with the functions of your test gear. A mate of mine has that Di Log and it's so easy a monkey could use it.

 

[pete555]

It has been asked already but, WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING TAKING THAT COVER OFF!?

Have you got the slightest idea of
A You're not supposed to touch the DNO's toys
B How stupidly dangerous it is to do that
C How you are supposed to conduct what are pretty basic test in a domestic environment
D That it's a good idea to read the manual and familiarise yourself with the functions of your test gear. A mate of mine has that Di Log and it's so easy a monkey could use it.

you upset trev sounds like your fuming

 

[trev]

You couldn't make this stuff up Pete. It absolutely beggars belief that someone's out there doing such idiotic things.

 

[pete555]

You couldn't make this stuff up Pete. It absolutely beggars belief that someone's out there doing such idiotic things.

kids will be kids one day it may all come together probably when they electrocute them selves

 

[trev]

Aye but they'll probably fry themselves in a client's house, how traumatic is that going to be for some poor unsuspecting punter who has been convinced that someone knew what they were doing

 

[pete555]

Aye but they'll probably fry themselves in a client's house, how traumatic is that going to be for some poor unsuspecting punter who has been convinced that someone knew what they were doing

this could be our destiny try and save the idiots who call themselves electricians or are we on a lost cause