Plant Pot Brigade!

[andrew692003]

Does anyone want to join?

As I've stated before I have never used these between floors or in any new builds so don't get out the sniper rifles straight away!

The only time I have used clay pots has been in lofts where access isn't a problem and usually in older dwelling houses. Now, the last time I did this was a good couple of years ago not that that matters as I can't see a problem with it.

When fitting the pots I always make sure that the insulation is clear of the hole and all dust etc has been cleaned away then I fit the pot with the transformer outside lying on top of the insulation. I always push the insulation up against the pot which makes it very steady.

At the end of the day all you are trying to achieve is to stop debris falling on the lamp and letting the heat dissipitate to possibly stop causing fire so, does it matter whether you use a firehood, plasterboard box or a bloody clay plant pot?

Firehoods can be expensive and a PIA to fit, Plasterboard boxes take time to build and even the cheapest Firerated fittings can still up the cost considerabaly.

Cheers

 

[rocker]

might get even cheaper in a fire sale

BaBoom.

They'd be the only things left.

 

[bugsy]

Stop shouting and calm down this thread was was origionally started as a bit of a joke (I believe)

Why would you be dragged through the courts for installing downlighters within a house that had a fire? (unless it was caused by you, of course).

Non compliance to part P ' negligence, rapid spread of fire, smoke inhalation especially if you install gimble's

 

[roukel01]

This is beginning to look more like a thread on the screwfix forum.

Do you think we could get this rather exhausted thread upto 100 pots, sorry I mean Posts.

 

[rocker]

This is beginning to look more like a thread on the screwfix forum.

Do you think we could get this rather exhausted thread upto 100 pots, sorry I mean Posts.

German people dont say 'volts' they say 'wolts'.

Just trying to up the post count....

 

[Notsosmart]

Non compliance to part P ' negligence, rapid spread of fire, smoke inhalation especially if you install gimble's

So a fire rated fitting has been installed, this fails (negligence?) & the non BSEN compliant plant pot that was put in the loft merely as a precautionary measure against insulation &/or detritus dust etc, causes the rapid spread & smoke inhalation: how?

 

[martysparky]

simple- no hole = less fire spread
with hole = more fire spread

If debris fell on a flower pot would it smash? could it then push the fitting out?
If debris fell on a Fire hood, plaster / metal box would it smash? or, would it flatten over the hole?

What one would you bet your life on.

 

[Spudnik]

Calm down chaps.

Its all good, and debates are healthy.

Trust me when i say this forum will not end up like the "other" one.

Peace.

 

[roukel01]

Calm down chaps.

Its all good, and debates are healthy.

Trust me when i say this forum will not end up like the "other" one.

Peace.

I sure hope not Jason.

 

[bugsy]

So a fire rated fitting has been installed, this fails (negligence?) & the non BSEN compliant plant pot that was put in the loft merely as a precautionary measure against insulation &/or detritus dust etc, causes the rapid spread & smoke inhalation: how?

If you install a fire rated fitting fails it's down to the manufacturer not you'
If you install a plant pot and a standard gimble fitting ( as an example ) and the spread of fire or smoke can be attributed to your fitting and plant pot whci don't comply to part p you could be held responsible for negligence i.e. you failed to comply with building reg's don't forget we live in a litigation mad society, why do think there are so many health and safety rules - not for fun it's so everybody covers their **** .

With regards to your question how? examine a fire rated fitting and the a gimble fitting you'll see how

 

[Johno]

what the ****

 

[Notsosmart]

simple- no hole = less fire spread
with hole = more fire spread

If debris fell on a flower pot would it smash? could it then push the fitting out?
If debris fell on a Fire hood, plaster / metal box would it smash? or, would it flatten over the hole?

What one would you bet your life on.

Your making the assumption that I advocate the use of plant pots.
Nor the plasterboard one, that would likely smash as well; you are also making the assumption that Mr careless hasn't kicked half of the fire hoods around his loft space whilst dragging the telly & riding his bike around up there.

 

[bugsy]

I bet jason and Lenny wish they were getting 10p a click for this one

 

[Guest123]

I bet jason and Lenny wish they were getting 10p a click for this one

I'd be a wealthy man if I had 10p for every post I've ever edited.

Just keep it clean guys....it's all I ask.

 

[GaryM]

Have a look at page 10 of this Aurora 2010 catalogue for an insulation coverable downlighter!

Aurora Fire Rated V2

Surely this would solve all the problems whilst emptying your wallet in the process!

 

[Notsosmart]

If you install a fire rated fitting fails it's down to the manufacturer not you'

Doh really? My point entirely

If you install a plant pot and a standard gimble fitting ( as an example ) and the spread of fire or smoke can be attributed to your fitting and plant pot whci don't comply to part p you could be held responsible for negligence i.e. you failed to comply with building reg's don't forget we live in a litigation mad society, why do think there are so many health and safety rules - not for fun it's so everybody covers their arse With regards to your question how? examine a fire rated fitting and the a gimble fitting you'll see how

No-on mentioned 'gimble' fittings apart from you, all other posts were talking about using fire rated downlighters

I think this post has run its course.