Plant Pot Brigade!

[andrew692003]

Does anyone want to join?

As I've stated before I have never used these between floors or in any new builds so don't get out the sniper rifles straight away!

The only time I have used clay pots has been in lofts where access isn't a problem and usually in older dwelling houses. Now, the last time I did this was a good couple of years ago not that that matters as I can't see a problem with it.

When fitting the pots I always make sure that the insulation is clear of the hole and all dust etc has been cleaned away then I fit the pot with the transformer outside lying on top of the insulation. I always push the insulation up against the pot which makes it very steady.

At the end of the day all you are trying to achieve is to stop debris falling on the lamp and letting the heat dissipitate to possibly stop causing fire so, does it matter whether you use a firehood, plasterboard box or a bloody clay plant pot?

Firehoods can be expensive and a PIA to fit, Plasterboard boxes take time to build and even the cheapest Firerated fittings can still up the cost considerabaly.

Cheers

 

[martysparky]

Your making the assumption that I advocate the use of plant pots.
Nor the plasterboard one, that would likely smash as well; you are also making the assumption that Mr careless hasn't kicked half of the fire hoods around his loft space whilst dragging the telly & riding his bike around up there.

If it were a plasterboard one it would have to be held together by something strong like timber and if adopting that method I would suggest that it is designed to withstand something falling on it.

if you install a fire rated fitting fails it's down to the manufacturer not you'
if you install a plant pot and a standard gimble fitting ( as an example ) and the spread of fire or smoke can be attributed to your fitting and plant pot whci don't comply to part p you could be held responsible for negligence i.e. You failed to comply with building reg's don't forget we live in a litigation mad society, why do think there are so many health and safety rules - not for fun it's so everybody covers their arse .

With regards to your question how? Examine a fire rated fitting and the a gimble fitting you'll see how

well said:d

 

[roukel01]

Have a look at page 10 of this Aurora 2010 catalogue for an insulation coverable downlighter!

Aurora Fire Rated V2

Surely this would solve all the problems whilst emptying your wallet in the process!

What do you think would happen if this fitting got hit by the Bike or TV in the loft?

 

[bugsy]

Doh really? My point entirely

No-on mentioned 'gimble' fittings apart from you, all other posts were talking about using fire rated downlighters

I think this post has run its course.

O.K. Shall we debate toridorial transformers vs. magnetic

What do you think would happen if this fitting got hit by the Bike or TV in the loft?

Dunno about the fitting but the bike would get a puncture and the tv would want retuning

 

[GaryM]

What do you think would happen if this fitting got hit by the Bike or TV in the loft?

Bikes and TV's aren't common in lofts but if one did happen to fall on this downlighter then it would probably push it out of its hole.

Not such a big deal really!

 

[baldsparkies]

Sorry Boy's I couldn't resist

 

[bugsy]

Well there's two them wheres the rest of the plant pot brigade

 

[martysparky]

Bikes and TV's aren't common in lofts but if one did happen to fall on this downlighter then it would probably push it out of its hole.

Not such a big deal really!

Of course but that depends if something is blocking it.
but if a bike, TV etc fell on a clay pot. who knows whats next especially if smashed during a fire or before debris would then push and then rapid fire spread is more likely. Those things would not happen if adopting a well built Plasterboard case with ply on top as protection or a metal case.

I have seen such items in lofts on many occasions and with the upturn in MTB its now more likely

 

[baldsparkies]

Well there's two them wheres the rest of the plant pot brigade

They decided to join this lot

 

[martysparky]

Just had a call from a customer who wants 30 plus downlights fitted and asked if I could use clay pots to keep the cost down as they need it done quick before they have insulation top up.

I said yeah the Pee Growers Society sell em cheap and they have a big P on the side. Paint the P green and it'll be Ok!

 

[bugsy]

They decided to join this lot

I just knew the'd be a fire engine involved sooner or later

 

[martysparky]

:d:d:d:d:d:d

 

[gaffer]

Watched this guy outside a pub in Amsterdam on new years eve 08,seemed to be on his own(or in his own world anyway!).New use for plant pot,part P compliant?

 

[rocker]

Watched this guy outside a pub in Amsterdam on new years eve 08,seemed to be on his own(or in his own world anyway!).New use for plant pot,part P compliant?View attachment 904

Fella in the brown coat looks like he's just finished having a wee.

 

[Notsosmart]

Flower Pot Heaven Links Page 3

 

[GaryM]

I have seen such items in lofts on many occasions and with the upturn in MTB its now more likely

You must have large loft hatches around your parts!

Most I come across are just about big enough to climb through, never mind take a mountain bike through.