What wire to use when spurring a circuit onto additional sockets?

[liamj2003]

I am wishing to extend and install some new sockets close to an existing socket in a room, I am a complete newbie when it comes to electrics although sensible and aware of the dangers, I want to install some additional power sockets in my living room but unsure what wire i need to use.

I am aware that this is an easy question but i dont know the answer so appreciate the help and if a few people could answer to confirm its right.

Once i know ill order some on ebay.

Many Thanks!!

 

[davelerave]

prob one of the mods here having a laugh

 

[steve k]

Crikey, you lot make a simple task seem so complicated.

Your man Durham Spark offered what seems like good advice to a chap asking about extending a few sockets, bearing in mind the chap is going to do it himself anyway. Now you lot have inferred that his house will burn down if he happens to use bell wire on the off chance he may have it in his shed ????

Your job/profession really is not as complicated as you lot think it is. A basic grasp of "O Level" physics is all it amounts to. Where is the speciality?

Steve

 

[Adam W]

Crikey, you lot make a simple task seem so complicated.

Your man Durham Spark offered what seems like good advice to a chap asking about extending a few sockets, bearing in mind the chap is going to do it himself anyway. Now you lot have inferred that his house will burn down if he happens to use bell wire on the off chance he may have it in his shed ????

Your job/profession really is not as complicated as you lot think it is. A basic grasp of "O Level" physics is all it amounts to. Where is the speciality?

Steve

Cable calcs? Maximum demand? Regs?
I'm thinking of going into IT - I can already use a forum, and I have my own screwdriver.

 

[Adam W]

Or a "ventilation engineer" - sucking air in and blowing it out again. Easy. Anyone who can breathe can do that.

 

[Hawk81]

Crikey, you lot make a simple task seem so complicated.

Your man Durham Spark offered what seems like good advice to a chap asking about extending a few sockets, bearing in mind the chap is going to do it himself anyway. Now you lot have inferred that his house will burn down if he happens to use bell wire on the off chance he may have it in his shed ????

Your job/profession really is not as complicated as you lot think it is. A basic grasp of "O Level" physics is all it amounts to. Where is the speciality?

Steve

Steve I will agree with you on one point and one point alone. There were a lot of unhelpful answers to the op but I think you will find most were intended as a jole. Now the rest of what you said was complete and utter tripe. How dare you belittle a trade which actially if done correctly is very complicated and difficult. Yes it is easy to wire a doulbe socket but all the cable calculations which include many factors and then the tests after to ensure all is well can not be done by the average DIYer. People like you seem to forget electricity is dangerous and not something for people to have a go at willy nilly. Think before you write such rubbish again.

 

[steve k]

Or a "ventilation engineer" - sucking air in and blowing it out again. Easy. Anyone who can breathe can do that.

Typical spark, can't read.... only quote. Often incorrectly.

I put my ventilation work as secondary, and my electrical work is perhaps tertiary.
My main business is refrigeration and air conditioning. Unfortunately we can seldom find "electricians" who understand the schematics of the basic control strategies we use in simple BMS's...........so I have decided to employ and train my own......

If any of you specialist are up for the challenge...

Steve

 

[Paul.M]

Things you need to consider when adding extra sockets.

Is it a ring or a radial? Are you going to spur from the ring? What is the flc of that circuit? Do you need additional protect (rcd)? The Zs, VD, Cg, Ca, Ci, Ct, If, It, In and the Ipf of the cable? Is the Zs within limits? After installing it can you test it, give a cert and notify the works?

It may not be rocket science but there's more to it than just banging another socket in the wall.

 

[Hawk81]

Typical spark, can't read.... only quote. Often incorrectly.

I put my ventilation work as secondary, and my electrical work is perhaps tertiary.
My main business is refrigeration and air conditioning. Unfortunately we can seldom find "electricians" who understand the schematics of the basic control strategies we use in simple BMS's...........so I have decided to employ and train my own......

If any of you specialist are up for the challenge...

Steve

Well you are my new hero!

 

[Adam W]

Typical spark, can't read.... only quote. Often incorrectly.

I put my ventilation work as secondary, and my electrical work is perhaps tertiary.
My main business is refrigeration and air conditioning. Unfortunately we can seldom find "electricians" who understand the schematics of the basic control strategies we use in simple BMS's...........so I have decided to employ and train my own......

If any of you specialist are up for the challenge...

Steve

Sorry, did I miss something?
I can do air conditioning - you don't need to "understand the schematics of the basic control strategies we use in simple BMS's" it's all plug & play, a monkey could do it.

 

[keith915]

Yes, 'O' Level physics is all you need to understand how electricity works. Play around with a bit of constantan wire and understand electron flow. Brill.

To ensure electricity is safe, that's another ball game entirely.

When there's a problem with water pipes, there's a leak
Problem with gas, you can usually smell it.
Problem with electrics... oh wait, someones just died from an electric shock or a housefire.... Were there any warning signs? No.

But wait, "the electrics were working fine before that happened".

 

[steve k]

Sorry, did I miss something?
I can do air conditioning - you don't need to "understand the schematics of the basic control strategies we use in simple BMS's" it's all plug & play, a monkey could do it.

Judging by this response a few birthdays. How old are you?

plug and play now I know at exactly what level you ply your trade. You may be able to baffle Mrs Green when her door bell doesn't work, but you will have to step up a gear if you want to work in the trade.

LOL Plug and Play Lolllllllll


Steve

 

[Hawk81]

Steve have you missed my first reply to you and what paul.m said?

 

[Paul.M]

Judging by this response a few birthdays. How old are you?

plug and play now I know at exactly what level you ply your trade. You may be able to baffle Mrs Green when her door bell doesn't work, but you will have to step up a gear if you want to work in the trade.

LOL Plug and Play Lolllllllll


Steve

Steve you've only just past your 2382? Your condescending comments on this subject is not warranted. Sounds like you've had some bad experiences with sparkys that you've employed. Are you sure they were rubbish or was it the management?

 

[Adam W]

Judging by this response a few birthdays. How old are you?

plug and play now I know at exactly what level you ply your trade. You may be able to baffle Mrs Green when her door bell doesn't work, but you will have to step up a gear if you want to work in the trade.

LOL Plug and Play Lolllllllll


Steve

A domestic installer could install a fan, it's really not as difficult as you're making it out to be.
I seem to remember there was an article about 'installing' air conditioning in professional electrician magazine recently - these new systems are a piece of cake to install and a lucrative way that electricians and installers can diversify. You don't need a degree in astrophysics to blow air around a room.

 

[steve k]

Yes, 'O' Level physics is all you need to understand how electricity works. Play around with a bit of constantan wire and understand electron flow. Brill.

To ensure electricity is safe, that's another ball game entirely.

When there's a problem with water pipes, there's a leak
Problem with gas, you can usually smell it.
Problem with electrics... oh wait, someones just died from an electric shock or a housefire.... Were there any warning signs? No.

But wait, "the electrics were working fine before that happened".

I fully agree. You can't smell it, often you can't hear it and it will kill you. It should be treated with respect. The problem is as far as I can see it it that you guys have made it out to be far more dangerous in every day life than it actually is.

What is more dangerous?:

The OP buying a load of 4 way extension leads and running them all around his house?

or

The OP asking advice from what he perceives as a reputable forum of professionals, on the correct way to perform a simple wiring task that is no more difficult than wiring a plug?

The guy needs a few extra sockets and one way or another he is going to get them.